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Just to let my contributors and all ST users know who would like to do targeted heating/cooling in their home that I have new versions of my zoned Heating/Cooling smartapps available at my store :
- I made a small change to ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule (v8.2.9c) and ScheduleTstatZones (v8.3.2), and ScheduleRoomTempControl (v4.2) to correct minor synchronization issues with the virtual zone devices.
You can download the new versions at my store using the original sellfy link.
The new code is available at my store.
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Hi,
Just to let my contributors and all ST users know who would like to do targeted heating/cooling in their home that I have new versions of my zoned Heating/Cooling smartapps available at my store :
- I made a small enhancement to ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule (v8.3) and ScheduleTstatZones (v8.3.3) in order to exclude (as an option) the master’s tstat ambient temp from the temp differential calculation to trigger the fan mode set in the fanSettings page when the offset is bigger than the maximum temp offset set in Schedule.
- I also corrected the logic to turn off the fan ( when the thermostat - ex. My Next Tstat- supports it) and the temp differential in the active zones is too small. If the thermostat doesn’t support the ‘fanOff’ command, then the ‘fanAuto’ command is sent instead.
You can download the new versions at my store using the original sellfy link.
The new code is available at my store.
For more details about the all use cases supported, refer to ST community wiki:
ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule:
ScheduleTstatZones:
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Hi,
Just to let my contributors know and all ST users who would like to do targeted heating/cooling in their home that I have new versions of my zoned Heating/Cooling smartapps available at my store :
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**I made a small enhancement to ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule (v8.4.1) and ScheduleTstatZones (v8.4.1), ScheduleRoomTempControl (4.3) to add the activeInSchedule attribute so that ST users can determine if a virtual zone device is active in the current schedule.
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Also, I made some small changes to the virtual Zone device (v1.7) to be able to use it as a switch to turn on/off the zone (make it active or inactive).
You can download the new versions at my store using the original sellfy link.
The new code is available at my store.
For more details about the all use cases supported, refer to ST community wiki:
ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule:
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=EcobeeSetZoneWithSchedule#Look_.26_Feel
ScheduleTstatZones:
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=ScheduleTstatZones#Look_.26_Feel
ScheduleRoomTempControl:
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=ScheduleRoomTempControl#Look_.26_Feel
P.S. For all ST users who have contributed to my support packages, the update has been done for you under your ST account (provided that I have your credentials), you don’t need to do anything: everything has been taken care of.
Regards
Hi,
Just to let my contributors know and all ST users who would like to do targeted heating/cooling in their home that I have new versions of my zoned Heating/Cooling smartapps available at my store :
-
I made a small enhancement to ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule (v8.4.2) and ScheduleTstatZones (v8.4.3) for better synchronization between the master thermostat and all the slave thermostats (in rooms for eTRVs, portable heaters/coolers, window/mini splits, or other zone thermostats) when the slave thermostats support the ‘eco’ or ‘away’ commands.
You can download the new versions at my store using the original sellfy link.
The new code is available at my store.
For more details about the all use cases supported, refer to ST community wiki:
ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule:
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=EcobeeSetZoneWithSchedule#Look_.26_Feel
ScheduleTstatZones:
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=ScheduleTstatZones#Look_.26_Feel
P.S. For all ST users who have contributed to my support packages, the update has been done for you under your ST account (provided that I have your credentials), you don’t need to do anything: everything has been taken care of.
Regards
Hi. I bought a single Keen vent just to try it out before investing in additional vents. I am using the ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule app, and everything seems to be setup correctly (all devices and sensors added and recognized). However, the vent always stays at 22 degrees open; the room can be several degrees hotter than the ecobee’s temperature setting and it does not close the vent. If the room is colder than the ecobee’s temperature setting, the vent stays at 22 degrees.
I followed these instructions:
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=EcobeeSetZoneWithSchedule#Use_Case_.231:_I_have_a_single_HVAC_system_with_1_main_thermostat
And setup 1 room with the keen vent and an ecobee3 temp sensor. The only difference is I did not enable “Enable temp adjustment based on indoor temp/motion sensor(s)” since I don’t want it overriding the ecobee thermostat setpoints right now (I tried enabling it just in case, didn’t work).
I have tried setting the safeguard minimum vent level to 0, and also toggled the switch to bypass all safeguards. I have set the schedule vent settings to adjust the vent every 5 minutes. Just for kicks I have also tried creating a second zone with no vent, just an ecobee temp sensor, and no luck there.
Maybe the app requires more than 1 vent to function? Does anyone have any ideas? Here is the log. I don’t see it attempting to change the angle of the vent.
Hi,
As a general rule, don’t post any logs in the ST community forum as it may contain sensitive info about your location. I’d recommend to remove your logs from your post and send me any logs (in the future) to services@maisonsecomatiq.com.
And, yes, in your case, if you have just 1 vent, you should deactivate the safeguards in GeneralSetup as the smartapp has been designed to handle many smart vents.
But, first of all, you’d need to enable the vent settings in GeneralSetup as indicated in the ST community wiki:
The smartapp has many features, and by default, the vent settings are not enabled. Many contributors use the smartapp to enable adjustments to the ecobee thermostat’s setpoints using any ST connected temp/motion/contact/presence sensors (and they don’t have any smart vents).
Regards.
Thank you! That did the trick. You are right, I had assumed this app was built around smart vent applications and had that functionality enabled by default. I can see now that it has many other useful applications.
No more getting cooked in the bedroom in the morning when the furnace tries to heat up downstairs! I saw you have IR blaster support so I will have to try hooking it up to the portable AC unit this spring.
Thanks again!
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Hi,
Just to let my contributors know and all ST users who would like to do targeted heating/cooling in their home that I have new versions of my zoned Heating/Cooling smartapps available at my store :
-
I made further enhancements to ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule (v8.4.5) and ScheduleTstatZones (v8.4.5) for better synchronization between the master thermostat and all the slave thermostats (in rooms for eTRVs, portable heaters/coolers, window/mini splits, or other zone thermostats) when the slave thermostats support the ‘eco’ or ‘away’ commands.
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In ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule (v8.4.5), I’ve also added some new fan settings in ScheduleSetup>fanSettings page in order to give finer control of the HVAC fan linked to ecobee thermostats by calling the newly setHeatDissipationTime() and setCoolDissipationTime() commands in My Ecobee device DTH.
With ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule, you now have all the following fan settings available and can customize them for each schedule in the smartapp:
- You can override the fan mode (circulate, on, auto) set for the current ecobee climate settings (or program) ;
- You can override the fan mode with conditions: ex. if the avg indoor temps collected from your own zone sensors vs. the ambient temp at the tstat is greater than a given offset value (ex. 5F), then turn on the fan; if lower, set it to auto The same logic can be done when the outdoor temp is greater than a temp threshold (ex. 80F);
- You can set the minimum fan runtime for a given schedule (ex. 5 minutes at Night, but 15 minutes during the day);
- You can now also set a different heating/cooling dissipation time at Nights vs. during the day. The heating/cooling dissipation time represents the desired fan runtime in seconds after a heating /cooling cycle to extract the hot/cool airflow from the ducts.
You can download the new versions at my store using the original sellfy link.
The new code is available at my store.
For more details about the all use cases supported, refer to ST community wiki:
ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule:
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=EcobeeSetZoneWithSchedule#Look_.26_Feel
ScheduleTstatZones:
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=ScheduleTstatZones#Look_.26_Feel
P.S. For all ST users who have contributed to my support packages, the update has been done for you under your ST account (provided that I have your credentials), you don’t need to do anything: everything has been taken care of.
Regards
Hi, a lot of HVAC guys are spreading bad rumors about smart vents… I guess they feel threatened. Smart vents are appropriate though when the temp differential between rooms or floors is not greater than 10-15F, above that threshold, it may be more efficient to call an HVAC technician to balance the airflow in your home. There is few documentation about smart vents as they are quite new and most of it is published by smart vent vendors such as the following: https://medium.com/@AleaLabs/8-reasons-why-smart-vents-2-0-are-safer-to-hvac-systems-than-manually-adjustable-dumb-vents-d5543ce9477 and https://keenhome.io/blogs/community/how-hvac-zoning-works.
Now, I’ve created many specialized zoned heating/cooling smartapps to take advantage of smart vents. And, in my smartapps, the following safeguards have been implemented to avoid the problems you mentioned: 1) the smartapps can check the static pressure by using 2 readings in the same room -could be from 2 smart vents or a smart vent and a Flair puck for example 2) The smartapps also check the vent temperature to be within a safe range (4-130F), but the range can be customized according to your HVAC specs 3) The smartapps check that there is no more than 50% of the smart vents that are closed.
Apart from the Keen Home smart vents, there is also the Flair vents which have some pros/cons as indicated in the ST community forum here: [RELEASE] FLAIR DEVICES with new capabilities for building physical zones in your home and controlling your mini/window splits, portable heaters/coolers
I’ve created some DTHs for both smart vents under SmartThings. The one for the Keen Home vents is less chatty and avoid wasting batteries. I’ve had the Keen Home vents at my home since the beta more than 4 years ago and I just changed the batteries in December. The Flair vent is also going strong after 2 years.
If you have more questions about smart vents, you can contact me at services@maisonsecomatiq.com.
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Hi,
Just to let my contributors know and all ST users who would like to do targeted heating/cooling in their home that I have new versions of my zoned Heating/Cooling smartapps available at my store :
- I made some enhancements to ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule (v8.5), ScheduleRoomTempControl (v4.4) and ScheduleTstatZones (v8.5) so all zones (including the zones not active in the running schedule) are refreshed with values coming from their room’s contact/motion/temp sensors, so that ST users can have an updated view of all their zones at a given time.
A virtual zone device can be composed of 1 to many rooms. The virtual zone devices can be integrated into ActionTiles for easier control.
You can download the new versions at my store using the original sellfy link.
The new code is available at my store.
For more details about the all use cases supported, refer to ST community wiki:
ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule:
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=EcobeeSetZoneWithSchedule#Look_.26_Feel
ScheduleTstatZones:
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=ScheduleTstatZones#Look_.26_Feel
ScheduleRoomTempControl:
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=ScheduleRoomTempControl
P.S. For all ST users who have contributed to my support packages, the update has been done for you under your ST account (provided that I have your credentials), you don’t need to do anything: everything has been taken care of.
Regards
After an exhaustive analysis spread over almost an year I can safely conclude your solution does not replace in any way the Ecobee method of providing optimal temperature. There are many, many reasons for the same.
First off - after careful review of your code it is evident that you employ a standard averaging model against the sensors’ recorded temperature. I have participated with ecobee for sometime now and their algorithms are in no way, shape or form as simplistic as yours w.r.t. calculating the averages. I leave alone the features like Smart Home or Follow Me. Just the algorithm to calculate the average is significantly different than yours and considers multitude of various variables like location, time of motion, amount of motion (in time), temperature differentials, historical data points among others. My NDA prohibits me to divulge more. Your advertisement critical point is using the Samsung Motion sensor’s recorded temperature instead of investing in ecobee sensors is actually not recommended. The ecobee sensors have in-built features which vastly prevents false positives. They are an arm and a leg ahead in terms of technology employed to detect motion and react to it. The Samsung ones are very elementary.
The APIs published by Ecobee causes the temperature requested to be on automatic hold rather than normal. This is extremely excremental to the health of the HVAC and thermostat itself. What I mean here is it will cause the HVAC to attempt maintaining a set temp for a lengthy period of time and the thermostat is equally taxed. If a consumer is controlling auxillary devices like HUM / DEHUM /etc. the negative effects are doubled. In short, the both the life of the thermostat, HVAC and auxiliary devices are equally affected.
The approach towards constant updates right down to one decimal point is an overkill which realizes itself into constant tracking and constant change of temperature. Here again - Ecobee algorithms in use ensure very efficient rounding in order to keep ambient temperatures with gradual increase/rise. Ecobee provides advanced features like heat threshold/sensor calibration starting 10F for extreme use cases.
It is, in my humble opinion your solution replacing Ecobee algorithms with sensors not really meant for temperature controls should be avoided else a consumer might face significant costs in stat/HVAC maintenance in near future. FInally, I believe by adopting your solution a consumer will actually end up spending more money on fuel effectively negating the benefits of save from not buying dedicated sensors. This is based off the algorithms in place in Ecobee geared towards economy of fuel consumption no more being “at play”.
This is my honest opinion and based off my own self analysis of code and usage of your solution.