How does this compare to NST Manager? I’m currently using that smart app with Nest thermostat and afew multisensors dotted around my home, running into issues with temperature readings using that app so pondered how this compares.
Hi,
The smartapp has many features and works well with MyNextManager (Nest devices under ST).
See the new DTHs here:
Please refer to the ST community wiki for more details about the ScheduleTstatZones smartapp:
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=ScheduleTstatZones
Regards.
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Hi,
Just to let my contributors know, I have new versions (v8.2.5) of my zoned Heating/Cooling smartapps available at my store :
- ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule and ScheduleTstatZones which now send the required on() command for some portable heaters/coolers/splits (as room thermostats) when they are part of the scheduled zones.
You can download the new versions at my store using the original sellfy link.
The new code is available at my store.
Regards.
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Hi,
Just to let my contributors know and all Sensibo users, I have new versions of my zoned Heating/Cooling smartapps available at my store :
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I made a small change to ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule (v8.2.7) and ScheduleTstatZones (v8.2.7) to be able to support the Sensibo thermostat capabilities (custom DTH) in order to control window/mini splits.
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With the new release, you can automatically turn on/off the Sensibo according to your schedules and even control the fan speed based on the concepts of rooms/zones/schedules just like the Remotec ZXT-120 and the Flair HVAC Units.
You can download the new versions at my store using the original sellfy link.
The new code is available at my store.
Regards.
Hi,
Just to let my contributors know and all users who would like to do targeted heating/cooling in their home that I have new versions of my zoned Heating/Cooling smartapps available at my store :
- I made a small change to ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule (v8.2.8) and ScheduleTstatZones (v8.2.8) to use the app.updateSetting() method in order to keep the virtual zone devices in sync with the values (temp delta, active zone or not) in the zoning smartapps.
You can download the new versions at my store using the original sellfy link.
The new code is available at my store.
Regards.
Hi,
Just to let my contributors and all ST users know and all users who would like to do targeted heating/cooling in their home that I have new versions of my zoned Heating/Cooling smartapps available at my store :
-
I made a small change to ScheduleTstatZones (v8.3), and to correct the zone’s active flag when set using the virtual zone devices.
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Also, in ScheduleTstatZones (v8.3), you can now indicate in each schedule if you want to synch the rooms’ slave thermostats (ex. eTRVs, portable heaters/coolers, mini/window splits) with the master’s thermostat’s setpoints or use the corresponding scheduled setpoints.
You can download the new versions at my store using the original sellfy link.
The new code is available at my store.
Regards.
Hi,
Just to let my contributors and all ST users know and all users who would like to do targeted heating/cooling in their home that I have new versions of my zoned Heating/Cooling smartapps available at my store :
- I made a small change to ScheduleTstatZones (v8.3.2) to correct minor synchronization issues with the virtual zone devices.
You can download the new versions at my store using the original sellfy link.
The new code is available at my store.
Regards.
Hi,
Just to let my contributors and all ST users know who would like to do targeted heating/cooling in their home that I have new versions of my zoned Heating/Cooling smartapps available at my store :
- I made a small enhancement to ScheduleTstatZones (v8.3.3) in order to exclude (as an option) the master’s tstat ambient temp from the temp differential calculation to trigger the fan mode set in the fanSettings page when the offset is bigger than the maximum temp offset set in Schedule.
- I also corrected the logic to turn off the fan ( when the thermostat - ex. My Next Tstat- supports it) and the temp differential in the active zones is too small. If the thermostat doesn’t support the ‘fanOff’ command, then the ‘fanAuto’ command is sent instead.
You can download the new versions at my store using the original sellfy link.
The new code is available at my store.
For more details about the all use cases supported, refer to ST community wiki:
Hi,
Just to let my contributors know and all ST users who would like to do targeted heating/cooling in their home that I have new versions of my zoned Heating/Cooling smartapps available at my store :
-
**I made a small enhancement to ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule (v8.4.1) and ScheduleTstatZones (v8.4.1), ScheduleRoomTempControl (4.3) to add the activeInSchedule attribute so that ST users can determine if a virtual zone device is active in the current schedule.
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Also, I made some small changes to the virtual Zone device (v1.7) to be able to use it as a switch to turn on/off the zone (make it active or inactive).
You can download the new versions at my store using the original sellfy link.
The new code is available at my store.
For more details about the all use cases supported, refer to ST community wiki:
ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule:
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=EcobeeSetZoneWithSchedule#Look_.26_Feel
ScheduleTstatZones:
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=ScheduleTstatZones#Look_.26_Feel
ScheduleRoomTempControl:
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=ScheduleRoomTempControl#Look_.26_Feel
P.S. For all ST users who have contributed to my support packages, the update has been done for you under your ST account (provided that I have your credentials), you don’t need to do anything: everything has been taken care of.
Regards
Hi,
Just to let my contributors know and all ST users who would like to do targeted heating/cooling in their home that I have new versions of my zoned Heating/Cooling smartapps available at my store :
-
I made a small enhancement to ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule (v8.4.2) and ScheduleTstatZones (v8.4.3) for better synchronization between the master thermostat and all the slave thermostats (in rooms for eTRVs, portable heaters/coolers, window/mini splits, or other zone thermostats) when the slave thermostats support the ‘eco’ or ‘away’ commands.
You can download the new versions at my store using the original sellfy link.
The new code is available at my store.
For more details about the all use cases supported, refer to ST community wiki:
ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule:
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=EcobeeSetZoneWithSchedule#Look_.26_Feel
ScheduleTstatZones:
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=ScheduleTstatZones#Look_.26_Feel
P.S. For all ST users who have contributed to my support packages, the update has been done for you under your ST account (provided that I have your credentials), you don’t need to do anything: everything has been taken care of.
Regards
Hi,
Just to let my contributors know and all ST users who would like to do targeted heating/cooling in their home that I have new versions of my zoned Heating/Cooling smartapps available at my store :
- I made further enhancements to ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule (v8.4.5) and ScheduleTstatZones (v8.4.5) for better synchronization between the master thermostat and all the slave thermostats (in rooms for eTRVs, portable heaters/coolers, window/mini splits, or other zone thermostats) when the slave thermostats support the ‘eco’ or ‘away’ commands.
So, now you have all the following fan settings available and can customize them for each schedule in the smartapp:
- You can override the fan mode (circulate, on, auto) set for the current ecobee climate settings (or program) ;
- You can override the fan mode with conditions: ex. if the avg indoor temps collected from your own zone sensors vs. the ambient temp at the tstat is greater than a given offset value (ex. 5F), then turn on the fan; if lower, set it to auto The same logic can be done when the outdoor temp is greater than a temp threshold (ex. 80F);
You can download the new versions at my store using the original sellfy link.
The new code is available at my store.
For more details about the all use cases supported, refer to ST community wiki:
ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule:
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=EcobeeSetZoneWithSchedule#Look_.26_Feel
ScheduleTstatZones:
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=ScheduleTstatZones#Look_.26_Feel
P.S. For all ST users who have contributed to my support packages, the update has been done for you under your ST account (provided that I have your credentials), you don’t need to do anything: everything has been taken care of.
Regards
Hi,
Just to let my contributors know and all ST users who would like to do targeted heating/cooling in their home that I have new versions of my zoned Heating/Cooling smartapps available at my store :
- I made some enhancements to ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule (v8.5), ScheduleRoomTempControl (v4.4) and ScheduleTstatZones (v8.5) so all zones (including the zones not active in the running schedule) are refreshed with values coming from their room’s contact/motion/temp sensors, so that ST users can have an updated view of all their zones at a given time.
A virtual zone device can be composed of 1 to many rooms. The virtual zone devices can be integrated into ActionTiles for easier control.
You can download the new versions at my store using the original sellfy link.
The new code is available at my store.
For more details about the all use cases supported, refer to ST community wiki:
ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule:
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=EcobeeSetZoneWithSchedule#Look_.26_Feel
ScheduleTstatZones:
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=ScheduleTstatZones#Look_.26_Feel
ScheduleRoomTempControl:
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=ScheduleRoomTempControl#Look_.26_Feel
P.S. For all ST users who have contributed to my support packages, the update has been done for you under your ST account (provided that I have your credentials), you don’t need to do anything: everything has been taken care of.
Regards
Hi,
Just to let my contributors know and all ST users who would like to do targeted heating/cooling in their home that I have new versions of my zoned Heating/Cooling smartapps available at my store :
-
I made some significant enhancements to ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule (v8.7), ScheduleTstatZones (v8.7), and ScheduleRoomTempControl (v4.5) :
-
The new versions are now listening to any “slave” physical thermostat(s) setpoint changes (ex. eTRVs, portable heaters/coolers, window/mini splits, baseboards, fireplaces, etc) in order to adjust the virtual zone devices’ setpoint for easier control.
-
The Virtual zone device (v1.1) has now the standard thermostatSetpoint capability which means an easier control via ActionTiles (popular custom dashboard) or other smartapps (such as webcore).
-
You can download the new version at my store using the original sellfy link.
The new code is available at my store.
For more details about the all use cases supported, refer to ST community wiki:
EcobeeSetZoneWithSchedule (for the main ecobee thermostat only)
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=EcobeeSetZoneWithSchedule#Look_.26_Feel
ScheduleTstatZones (for any ST connected main thermostat like the Nest, Honeywell, etc.)
https://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=ScheduleTstatZones#Look_.26_Feel
ScheduleRoomTempControl (for any ST connected main thermostat with smart vents).
https://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=ScheduleRoomTempControl#Look_.26_Feel
P.S. For all ST users who have contributed to my support packages, the update has been done for you under your ST account (provided that I have your credentials), you don’t need to do anything: everything has been taken care of.
Regards.
Hi,
Just to let my contributors know and all ST users who would like to do targeted heating/cooling in their home that I have new versions of my zoned Heating/Cooling smartapps available at my store :
-
I made some significant enhancements to ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule (v8.7.2), ScheduleTstatZones (v8.7.2), and ScheduleRoomTempControl (v4.5.2) :
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The new versions are now listening to any “slave” physical thermostat(s) er changes (ex. eTRVs, portable heaters/coolers, window/mini splits, baseboards, fireplaces, etc) in order to adjust the virtual zone devices’ setpoint for easier control.
-
With the recent versions, any setpoint adjustment using the Virtual Zone device or a physical slave thermostat is made within 10 seconds instead of at the next zoning app cycle (every 5 minutes). The vents settings are then applied with the new setpoint more quickly.
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The Virtual zone device (v1.1) has now the standard thermostatSetpoint capability which means an easier control via ActionTiles (popular custom dashboard) or other smartapps (such as webcore).
-
You can download the new version at my store using the original sellfy link.
The new code is available at my store.
For more details about the all use cases supported, refer to ST community wiki:
EcobeeSetZoneWithSchedule (for the main ecobee thermostat only)
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=EcobeeSetZoneWithSchedule#Look_.26_Feel
ScheduleTstatZones (for any ST connected main thermostat like the Nest, Honeywell, etc.)
https://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=ScheduleTstatZones#Look_.26_Feel
ScheduleRoomTempControl (for any ST connected main thermostat with smart vents).
https://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=ScheduleRoomTempControl#Look_.26_Feel
P.S. For all ST users who have contributed to my support packages, the update has been done for you under your ST account (provided that I have your credentials), you don’t need to do anything: everything has been taken care of.
Regards.
Hi,
Just to let my contributors know and all ST users who would like to do targeted heating/cooling in their home that I have new versions of my zoned Heating/Cooling smartapps available at my store :
-
I made some significant optimization to ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule (v8.7.6), and ScheduleTstatZones (v8.7.6):
- When using the alternative cooling settings to control big fan/damper/evaporative cooler switch(es) and the HVAC fan, the new versions will avoid sending the same fanOn() or fanOff() commands if the HVAC fan is already in the correct fan mode.
You can download the new version at my store using the original sellfy link.
The new code is available at my store.
For more details about the all use cases supported, refer to ST community wiki:
EcobeeSetZoneWithSchedule (for the main ecobee thermostat only)
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=EcobeeSetZoneWithSchedule#Look_.26_Feel
ScheduleTstatZones (for any ST connected main thermostat like the Nest, Honeywell, etc.)
https://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=ScheduleTstatZones#Look_.26_Feel
ScheduleRoomTempControl (for any ST connected main thermostat with smart vents).
https://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=ScheduleRoomTempControl#Look_.26_Feel
P.S. For all ST users who have contributed to my support packages, the update has been done for you under your ST account (provided that I have your credentials), you don’t need to do anything: everything has been taken care of.
Regards.
@yvesracine As I mentioned in another thread, I’ve got a few questions on if this app will work with my use case. I assume yes, but would like to be sure before making the investment.
My primary source of heating/cooling will come from a Daikin split system and uses this DTH . My secondary source of heating is electric baseboard which will be controlled through 15 Sinope Zigbee thermostats.
Here are my questions:
1: Does the app support primary and secondary heating sources? I’d like it to function similar to a ducted heat pump with electric backup. Once the exterior temperature hits a point that’s below it’s efficiency rating turn on the electric. Ideally I’d like to have only the split providing heat to the main area unless it’s below temperature X which will then turn on the baseboards. I assume this might be possible using the moreHeatThreshold?
2: We have cathedral ceilings and would like to control the ceiling fan while heating to push the hot air at the ceiling down. Something like when heating, set ceiling fan to clockwise and low. When cooling set ceiling fan to counter clockwise and medium. You mention ability to control “a Big Fan”, would this do what I’m looking for? I could always do that in webcore, I just figure ceiling fans can be a big part in heating/cooling homes so it may already be built in.
3: Can motion sensors be excluded while in away mode? I don’t want the dog turning up the heating/cooling while he’s roaming around the house during the day while we’re at work.
4: Someone way back asked about seasonal temperature thresholds. Was something like this ever implemented? Summer and winter it’s really just heat/cool, but spring and fall we get into lots of temperature swings. This morning it was 4C and this afternoon it’s 22C. When I got up this morning, my split was pushing out heat and the house was up to 24 degrees and this afternoon it’s pushing out AC and the house is sitting at 17. All while on “auto” set at 20C. What I’ve found myself doing is cracking a window which forces it to turn off and then the house stays at a comfortable temperature on it’s own. Having seasonal options would be helpful. Either by having separate thresholds, or an option that would allow us to turn the system off if temperature is set to 20 degrees and the exterior temperature is within X number of degrees of the set temp.
Hi, here are my answers to your questions. I’m afraid that my smartapp cannot implement all your use cases as they are quite specific to your configuration…
1: Yes, but not the way you describe it.
All your Sinope thermostats would be considered as slave thermostats to Dailkin split system (master).
The slave tstats would then synchronize their mode and heating/cooling setpoints with the master. You can use the virtual zone devices to add a delta temp (+/-) to make a zone cooler or hotter if you have colder/hotter rooms. A zone is composed of 1 to many rooms.
The moreHeatThreshold is used to increase the heatingSetpoint if the outside temperature reaches a configurable threshold. It would affect the master’s heatingSetpoint and by ricochet, all the slave thermostats linked to the master.
2: The zoning smartapp can automatically set the right fan speed based on the temp differential in the scheduled zones. The smartapp would modulate the fan speed according to the max temp differiential allowed for the zone. If the temp differential is big (i.e. equal or greater than your own defined threshold), the fan speed would be set to high, otherwise medium or low if the temp differential is small compared to your threshold.
After checking your Dailkin DTH, I must add that yours is not compatible with my logic as the author has not implemented the required fanHigh(), fanMedium(), and fanLow() commands…
3: Usually, motion sensors can be configured to not take into account an animal in the house. Regardless of your ST location mode (Home or Away), all motion sensors are used to toggle the thermostat’s mode…The only exception is at night, where all rooms are considered occupied regardless of the input of all motion sensors.
In brief, there is no way to exclude the motion sensors when the ST hello mode is Away. The smartapp uses the motion sensors to detect if somebody is returning home after an absence.
4: The smartapp can switch between the cool/heat/auto modes based on heat/cool thresholds.
Note: The smartapp would not turn off the master tstat based on some thresholds though.
In my smartapps, I usually avoid switching the master tstat to off as in the major parts of the US and Canada, turning off a master tstat could lead to pipe bursting in the winter and mould in the summer. It’s a safety issue: SmartThings is not the most reliable platform and any scheduling issue or outages could lead to problems.
But,my smartapp can turn off or set all slave thermostats to eco or Away when they are not part of the scheduled zones (ex. heat/cool only the upstairs bedrooms at night, and all other slave tstats in other rooms would be turned off).
However, my smartapp can set any compatible master thermostat to Away or Home if it supports presence (such as the ecobee) .
But, I check your Dailkin DTH, and it doesn’t support the required away() or home() (present) methods.
Regards.
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Hi,
Just to let my contributors know and all ST users who would like to do targeted heating/cooling in their home that I have new versions of my zoned Heating/Cooling smartapps available at my store :
-
I made the following optimization to ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule (v8.8), ScheduleTstatZones (v8.8), and ScheduleRoomTempControl (v4.6) :
- Optimized setVentSwitchLevel() to avoid sending multiple setLevel command to the vents if their current level is already within range of the target level in order to reduce noise.
For more details about the all use cases supported, refer to ST community wiki:
EcobeeSetZoneWithSchedule (for the main ecobee thermostat only - with some optional smart vents)
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=EcobeeSetZoneWithSchedule#Look_.26_Feel
P.S. EcobeeSetZoneWithSchedule has a tight integration with My Ecobee device.
ScheduleTstatZones (for any ST connected main thermostat like the Nest, Honeywell, etc. - with some optional smart vents)
https://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=ScheduleTstatZones#Look_.26_Feel
ScheduleRoomTempControl (for any ST connected main thermostat with smart vents).
https://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=ScheduleRoomTempControl#Look_.26_Feel
P.S. For all ST users who have contributed to my support packages, the update has been done for you under your ST account (provided that I have your credentials), you don’t need to do anything: everything has been taken care of.
You can download the new version at my store using the original sellfy link.
The new code is available at my store.
Regards.
Hi,
Just to let my contributors know and all ST users who would like to do targeted heating/cooling in their home that I have new version of my zoned Heating/Cooling smartapp available at my store :
- I corrected the following minor issues in ecobeeSetZoneWithSchedule (v8.8.2), ScheduleTstatZones (v8.8.1) and ScheduleRoomTempControl (v4.6.1):
- Made some changes to the icons path following some security changes in iOS/Android ST classic mobile app*.
For more details about the all use cases supported, refer to ST community wiki:
EcobeeSetZoneWithSchedule (for the main ecobee thermostat only - with some optional smart vents)
http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=EcobeeSetZoneWithSchedule#Look_.26_Feel
P.S. EcobeeSetZoneWithSchedule has a tight integration with My Ecobee device.
ScheduleTstatZones (for any ST connected main thermostat like the Nest, Honeywell, etc. - with some optional smart vents)
https://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=ScheduleTstatZones#Look_.26_Feel
ScheduleRoomTempControl (for any ST connected main thermostat with smart vents).
https://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=ScheduleRoomTempControl#Look_.26_Feel
P.S. For all ST users who have contributed to my support packages, the update has been done for you under your ST account (provided that I have your credentials), you don’t need to do anything: everything has been taken care of.
You can download the new version at my store using the original sellfy link.
The new code is available at my store.
Regards