I don’t see people talking much about security. Once we add door locks, garage opener, window openers,… I feel like we just give up the security for convenience. With all of the hacking news lately, I don’t think any company, big or small, is totally secured. Before, thieves have to physically break the doors and windows to enter our house, now they can hack and disable all of the sensors and open doors to enter. I still hesitate to put in the door locks. However, my garage opener currently can be controlled by ST . What do you think? Can we just blindly trust ST to secure our HA?
Unless you live in the most computer-savvy city in the world, you should worry more about people breaking you door or window, instead of hacking to get into your house. To hack a company is not an easy task, which is usually not in the skills of the common burglar.
As far as smart locks are concerned, you should be worried more because of this:
Great questions, much discussed in the forums.
Rather than hijack this thread, though, I would start with the security FAQ: (this is a clickable link) most of the people interested in discussing the topic are there:.
I certainly don’t think so, which is why my ST environment is completely separate from my wired alarm system. They are backups to each other, without either one using a sensor or device from another.
While I have “locks” in my ST world, they’re not real locks. I’ve repurposed an Ecolink sensor and a microswitch to let me know the state of the lock, but never control it.
@JDRoberts, the link you sent is mainly for securing our home network. I was talking about ST network. Let say if hackers can hack ST network and steal all of the username/password for our accounts. They can sell that information for burglars to use. Burglars can install the new mobile app and use our username/password to control our houses. ST also has our house GPS coordinate. So burglar can know exactly which house to control.
By the way, I have another addiction to check this ST community. The users here are much more active than Vera.
OK, try this topic.
Yeah, all the addicts are enablers. LOL!
Thank you! Since you are the one to admit it, I’m saying it as well. I am a HA community forum addict.
not sure I have 10K, but I feel like im possibly getting there.
I only have 1 nest
hue bridge with 48 lights
5 wemo outlet switches, 3 wall switches
netatmo with 3 additional modules
2 wemo makers
5 ST motion sensors
3 ST presense sensors
4 ST multi sensors
1 ST water detector
8 contact sensors
this hobby is worse than car stuff or BMX bikes…maybe I need to find a new hobby like extreme couponing.
You are seriously missing a few cameras. The latest Harmony Elite.
I have 2 belkin camera, but they suck horribly. im planning on getting a few of the Samsung ones soon.
Stop it. You are encouraging this poor guy. You are basically being an online HA dealer.
He’s an HA enabler! ! ! ! !
I still have 22 light switches still waiting to be installed. The worst part is… I am an electrician. This hobby is starting to cut into my spare times. That’s what my wife said anyway. I think she’s wrong
I would have more light switches, but I despise putting them in
Mine started with binge-buying ordinary LED bulbs. Then I asked myself, “Hmmmm…what are these GE Link bulbs all about?” At that point it just spiraled out of control.
Yes the joke use to be " how many XXX does it take to change a light bulb" updated (HA) version is- how many light bulbs does XXX need. I now find myself looking for empty sockets and staring longingly at new lamps…
Hey, you are so missing out on the new Aeotec Doorbell (now shipping). It is available now. And of course Kuna Lights… Go for it, Brian!
Not sure exactly how much I have spent so far, but it’s probably best I don’t add it up…but
Here is my addiction:
1-Harmony Elite in Family room (2 months after getting the Ultimate Home)
1-Harmony hub Extender (Family room)
1-Harmony Ultimate Home (Bedroom)
1-Harmony 650 (~3 MONTHS OLD AND CURRENTLY FOR SALE)
1-Wink Hub (1-Nest Protect, 6-zwave Leviton Light Switches, 8-Lutron Dimmers and wall plates, 9-Lutron Pico Remotes and wall plates, 5-Lutron on/off Switch and wall plates, 2-zwave relays (Remotect and Enerwave) (fireplace and 2-load to convert a standard duplex switch to zwave) - Really went with this hub because the lutron dimmers and switches look nicer than most of the other ST switches and dimmers.
1-Chamberlain MyQ door sensor
4-zwave PIR ceiling sensors
4-zwave contact sensors
2-Leviton plug in dimmers
2-Leviton plug in switches
2-Aeon Labs recessed magnetic contact sensors
5-IP cameras (pending installation)
3-Aeon Labs Sirens
1-Everspring contact sensor
1-zwave motion/Temp. detector
2-First Alert zwave Fire/CO detectors
And all that doesn’t include the entertainment setup. Still much more to get before I am satisfied.
On the bright side, I have become a self-proclaimed electrician
No automation is complete without couple of echo’s and at least 25 hue and family products… It’s Friday evening. Hit the local bar, get drunk and then drunken shopping! Helps with the remorse part. Don’t you like music? I don’t see couple of Sonos Play-1’s there. Doorbell, porch lights, alarms!!!
Lol! I did my shipping last night. I found a lowes that had a whole bunch of the GE/Jasco switches, the ones in the blister packs. I cleaned them out!
3 the way switch kits @ 40.00 each
4 on/off switches for 28.00
1 dimmer switch
A bunch of wall plates
About 320.00 the door after my discounts.
These were the switches in the blister packs, not the individual ones in the boxes.
I’m not sure what the difference is, other than I have more money to spend on more stuff!
I’m trying to decide on which thermostats to get. Problems with that is I keep them programmed and never touch them. The two wifi ones work great, they just aren’t connected to ST.
And I’m trying to convince the wife on the third and maybe fourth echo.