# Latest on thermostatic radiator valves

**URL:** <https://community.smartthings.com/t/latest-on-thermostatic-radiator-valves/125183>\
**Category:** Devices & Integrations\
**Tags:** project\_hvac\
**Created:** [April 25, 2018, 3:31pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/latest-on-thermostatic-radiator-valves/125183 "2018-04-25T15:31:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![onslowhjr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c2a13f/32.png) [@onslowhjr](https://community.smartthings.com/u/onslowhjr)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 3:31pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/latest-on-thermostatic-radiator-valves/125183/1 "2018-04-25T15:31:45Z")

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Hello all.

I have smartthings running with my Nest thermostat (thank you NST Manager!). I’m also running webcore pistons for all my automations.

What’s the latest with which TRV’s will work with Smartthings/Webcore? I would like to be able to zone my radiators (i.e. have downstairs heat early evening and then upstairs later in the evening, and only upstairs in the morning). I’m fine with the automating side of things, thanks to Webcore, but need to know which TRV’s can be added as a Thing in SmartThings.

Thanks

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**Author:** ![yvesracine](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/yvesracine/32/95271_2.png) [@yvesracine](https://community.smartthings.com/u/yvesracine)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 3:41pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/latest-on-thermostatic-radiator-valves/125183/2 "2018-04-25T15:41:53Z")

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Hi,

I’ve heard that Tado has good integration with SmartThings…

> [@\[OBSOLETE\] Tado (Connect)](https://community.smartthings.com/t/release-tado-connect/65465):
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> I have released v2.7 of my Tado (Connect) SmartApp Full Install instructions and links to the Device Handlers are available on the link below. I have now moved the Tado SmartApps And Device types to a new Tado Repository to make things easier for those with Github Integration in the IDE. you now need to enter my repository details to install or update the app Namespace: fuzzysb Repository: Tado Branch: master Change Log v2.7 For anyone experiencing issues of not being able to control AC devices, please update to the latest Smartapp and device handler code as this should now fix your issues. v2.6 Fixed Commands for those with Heat Cool that do not support Fan Modes v2.5 Amended bug where Hot water type was set to WATER, Instead or HOT\_WATER, with …

And,there is also Energenie (mi Home):

> [@\[OBSOLETE\] MiHome (Connect) V2.0.1 \[Energenie\] (not Xiaomi MiHome)](https://community.smartthings.com/t/release-mihome-connect-v2-0-1-energenie-not-xiaomi-mihome/62385):
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> Announcing the new MiHome (Connect) smart app and device types. This enables you to connect Smartthings with certain MiHome Energenie products. NOTE: This smart app requires the MiHome Gateway to function. Author - @Alyc100 getCSSData and HTMLTile elements - @tonesto7 Tireless Testers @Lloyd_Williams @aaf2001 @inpier Donations This integration is provided completely free of charge and is open source. If however you really feel like it, you can make a donation [here](https://www.paypal.me/alyc100) #Latest Versions Ensure you install the latest versions of both the Smart App and Device Handler IMPORTANT: If using MiHome Adapter Device Handler release dated on or before 08/11/2016, please manually remove all MiHome Adapter devices from SmartThings before upgrading to 09/11/2016 and later releases. You can re-add th…

There is a new pop eTRV DTH available:

> [@\[Release\] POP POPE010101 Z-Wave Radiator Thermostat (TRV)](https://community.smartthings.com/t/release-pop-pope010101-z-wave-radiator-thermostat-trv/141561):
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> I bought one of these and found it very had to find a DH, had to do a lot of seaching in the fourms. Ive done some work on it so you can update the interval and it sets the time weekly, as these didnt seam to work

There is the Eurotronics TRV here:

> [@Eurotronics Spirit TRV](https://community.smartthings.com/t/eurotronics-spirit-trv/116694):
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> OK SO I’ve decided to order one of these: [Eurotronics Spirit TRV](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Eurotronic-SPIRIT-Thermostat-White/dp/B075X257NC/ref=sr_1_1?s=diy&ie=UTF8&qid=1516975608&sr=1-1&keywords=eurotronic+spirit) and try and integrate it. It’ll be arriving on monday I’ll be borrowing heavily from the Danfoss and eCozy DH’s to try and get this set up. If anyone has any advice or has started making progress on this already I’d be happy for the input or to help with their integration. Looking forward to getting my hands dirty

The Drayton Wiser TRV:

> [@Drayton wiser home thermostat](https://community.smartthings.com/t/drayton-wiser-home-thermostat/105055):
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> Hi all Just bought the Drayton wiser home thermostat system and have just finished setting them up (very easy to set up) First impressions are pretty good but it is very early days. I believe it is a new system so at the moment no integration with ST or IFTTT As anyone else used this system yet and any ideas if it could be integrated with ST.

And, the Danfoss eTRV with the following custom DTH:

> [@Integration of z-Wave /danfoss thermostatw](https://community.smartthings.com/t/integration-of-z-wave-danfoss-thermostatw/23310/442):
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> BTW, somebody sent me some IDE screenshots of the danFoss thermostatw DTH, and the DTH lacks some basic thermostat capabilities & attributes (i.e., thermostatMode, thermostatOperatingState, thermostatFanMode - even if the attributes don’t always apply, they should be present). I don’t know who is the DTH author, but she/he should modify the DTH to make it more standard. Otherwise, no other smartapps can use the thermostat as it is. EDIT: I found this DTH that seems to be more standard: Regards,

And finally, the new Hive TRV

> [@\[OBSOLETE\] - Hive (Connect) V3.2c (British Gas Hive)](https://community.smartthings.com/t/release-hive-connect-v3-0-british-gas-hive/103473/160):
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> Ok took a bit of time with the bank holiday & bit of a learning curve to understand what is going on but here we go… My modified version of the Hive (Connect) SmartApp: [https://github.com/Bibbleq/SmartThingsPublic/blob/master/smartapps/alyc100/hive-connect.src/hive-connect.groovy](https://github.com/Bibbleq/SmartThingsPublic/blob/master/smartapps/alyc100/hive-connect.src/hive-connect.groovy) And a new DH to add for the TRV device type: [https://github.com/Bibbleq/SmartThingsPublic/blob/master/devicetypes/alyc100/hive-TRV.src/hive-TRV.groovy](https://github.com/Bibbleq/SmartThingsPublic/blob/master/devicetypes/alyc100/hive-TRV.src/hive-TRV.groovy) Copy the smartapp code over the top of your current “Hive (Connect)” one and then make a new DH from RAW code for the TRV bits. Go nuts, let me know what you find & don’t blame me slight_smile Edit: Think if a TRV is in schedule mode adjusting the set point isn’t working right…

In any case, you may want to look into my zoned Heating/cooling solutions which can simplify a lot your eTRVs zone management for you.

**For example, you can configure your rooms/zones/schedules and the smartapp can automatically turn on/off the right eTRVs and synchronize your setpoints based on your Nest (or any other ST connected thermostat) according to your own requirements (with some temp delta for colder/hotter rooms; you can also create virtual zone devices for easier control)…**

> [@\*\*\* No longer supported \*\*\* \[OBSOLETE\] Introducing ScheduleTstatZones: multi zoned heating/cooling solution for your home](https://community.smartthings.com/t/release-introducing-scheduletstatzones-the-ultimate-flexible-smartapp-for-your-thermostat-s-and-multi-zoned-heating-cooling-solution-for-your-home/13345):
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> Hello there, \*\* UPDATE \*\* My smartapp is now officially approved by Keen Home: [image] This is the ultimate flexible smartapp for anyone who wants to better control her/his thermostat(s), and creates heating/cooling zones using Smart Vents like Econet, Keen Home vents or Ecovents. With this smartapp, you can also create “virtual zones” (without any vents) where you can then adjust the thermostat’s heating/cooling setpoints based on the avg temp calculated from different room sensors with the ‘occupied’ option or not. Actually, it should be the only smartapp that controls your thermostat(s) at home!! Latest versions: [ScheduleTstatZonesV9: new major version with added custom capability in MyVirtualZone DTH for Setting Zone setpoint under the new Samsung connect app!](https://community.smartthings.com/t/release-introducing-scheduletstatzones-multi-zoned-heating-cooling-solution-for-your-home/13345/441)[V8.8.9 EcobeeSe…](https://community.smartthings.com/t/release-introducing-scheduletstatzones-multi-zoned-heating-cooling-solution-for-your-home/13345/204)

For more details (and use cases), refer to the ST community wiki:

[http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=ScheduleTstatZones](http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=ScheduleTstatZones)

 ![300px-MyVirtualZoneP0](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/original/3X/d/2/d252cbd5d0e661534078e10a6a8d762aa8cdc5c6.png)  
P.S. It would be quite complex to reproduce the same logic in webCore (more than 5K lines of code)…I have several contributors who are using my smartapp with the same setup.

Regards.

EDIT: If you want an easier install for your Nest products (you don’t need to create a Nest developer account and copy/paste all the Nest permissions) and more resilience to any ST or Nest outages, look at My Next Manager:

> [@\*\*\* No longer supported \*\*\* \[RELEASE\] My Next Manager for your Nest® products: migrated to custom capabilities (home/away, motion, presence, and more)!](https://community.smartthings.com/t/release-resilient-my-next-manager-my-next-devices-for-your-nest-products-with-native-ui-for-faster-rendering-on-android-ios-all-st-standard-capabilities-high-refresh-rates-no-complicated-developer-account-setup/114903):
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> A contribution fee is required due to the amount of work for the design, development, and testing of the devices (equivalent of a few cups of coffee). The installation steps have been updated to reflect the fact that the installation can now proceed under the new SmartThings mobile app. To download the SmartThings code, go to [www.ecomatiqhomes.com/store](http://www.ecomatiqhomes.com/store) \_ For all Nest users regardless if you have a Nest or Google account, my code can expose all your Nest Tstats, Protects, and Sensors under your Nest primary account (except the ones from a partner program such as with an utility). Automation variables available for your scenarios MyNextTstat In Fahrenheit with motion/presence according to y…

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**Author:** ![rzr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/rzr/32/90189_2.png) [@rzr](https://community.smartthings.com/u/rzr)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/latest-on-thermostatic-radiator-valves/125183/3 "2019-01-22T17:43:53Z")

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Any update since, are any TRV supported natively ? I guess most of them are using ZWave, what about Zigbee or BLE ones if any ?

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**Author:** ![60milesmile](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/60milesmile/32/107723_2.png) [@60milesmile](https://community.smartthings.com/u/60milesmile)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 9:21am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/latest-on-thermostatic-radiator-valves/125183/4 "2019-12-28T09:21:40Z")

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Thanks @yvesracine for the helpful summary thread. Thinking of adding a trv or two to my small london flat and intergrate into my webcore setup. Is there any actual difference between the options? Looks like all offer the same functionality so its really up to availability and price? The tado and hives are currently around the £45 mark on ebay.

I’ve a Nest but wasnt planning to link directly, instead just use aqara temp sensors given that Nest is not playing well with ST (is that still the Case?).

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**Author:** ![yvesracine](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/yvesracine/32/95271_2.png) [@yvesracine](https://community.smartthings.com/u/yvesracine)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2019, 9:58am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/latest-on-thermostatic-radiator-valves/125183/5 "2019-12-28T09:58:12Z")

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Hi, the eTRV choice is up to you as if depends on your own preferences and budget.

The Nest can no longer be integrated to Smarthings since end of August 2019 as the WWN (Works With Nest) APIs program has been terminated (as you may know) .

For the best eTRV automation, my _ScheduleTstatZones_ smartapp is the smartest way to control ETRVs based on the concepts of rooms/zones/schedules. It can use any ST connected temp/motion/contact sensors to control the eTRVs. However, please note that the Xiaomi Aquara temp sensors are difficult to pair and may disconnect as they are not fully Zigbee compliant (I don’t use them at home for that reason)…

To try to reproduce this logic in Webcore is not really possible as the smartapp has more than 5k lines of code…

Regards

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**Author:** ![Andy\_Godber](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/andy_godber/32/103872_2.png) [@Andy\_Godber](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Andy_Godber)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 8:03pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/latest-on-thermostatic-radiator-valves/125183/6 "2020-03-02T20:03:00Z")

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I was interested to hear if @rzr got a response - are there any TRVs with a DTH that works without the TRV manufacturers hub/gateway?

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**Author:** ![yvesracine](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/yvesracine/32/95271_2.png) [@yvesracine](https://community.smartthings.com/u/yvesracine)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 2:02am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/latest-on-thermostatic-radiator-valves/125183/7 "2020-03-03T02:02:12Z")

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Hi, all the zwave eTRVs listed above don’t need a hub. The Smarthings hub acts as their controller, but it doesn’t have the logic to control them smartly. You’d need a smartapp like _ScheduleTstatZones_ to do so.

Regards

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**Author:** ![wogapat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/da6949/32.png) [@wogapat](https://community.smartthings.com/u/wogapat)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 6:38am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/latest-on-thermostatic-radiator-valves/125183/8 "2020-03-03T06:38:32Z")

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Hi, I use Eurotronics Spirit. Available as zwave or zigbee. They are normally around the £35 mark. I picked some up for €26 a few weeks back. No need for a hub. I see someone has already linked to the thread, earlier. They can ocassionally play up, search ‘eurotronic’ & ‘overheat’. So far they’re working pretty well, for me.

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**Author:** ![GSzabados](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/gszabados/32/73805_2.png) [@GSzabados](https://community.smartthings.com/u/GSzabados)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 7:54am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/latest-on-thermostatic-radiator-valves/125183/9 "2020-03-03T07:54:51Z")

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@wogapat, which version do you have? Zwave or zigbee? I am looking for a zigbee DH to learn from it.

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**Author:** ![wogapat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/da6949/32.png) [@wogapat](https://community.smartthings.com/u/wogapat)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 8:06am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/latest-on-thermostatic-radiator-valves/125183/10 "2020-03-03T08:06:03Z")

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@GSzabados. I have the zwave version. Does this help:

[eCozy Zigbee Thermostat / TRV Device Handler](https://community.smartthings.com/t/ecozy-zigbee-thermostat-trv-device-handler/107869)

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**Author:** ![GSzabados](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/gszabados/32/73805_2.png) [@GSzabados](https://community.smartthings.com/u/GSzabados)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 6:25pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/latest-on-thermostatic-radiator-valves/125183/11 "2020-03-03T18:25:17Z")

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Thanks @wogapat, I know that one. I based my DH mostly on that. But I was hoping some other device which has a zigbee DH to learn from. My device has plenty proprietary things what I cannot really tap on and missing some features meanwhile on the standard zigbee implementation side.

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**Author:** ![wogapat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/da6949/32.png) [@wogapat](https://community.smartthings.com/u/wogapat)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 10:57am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/latest-on-thermostatic-radiator-valves/125183/12 "2020-03-07T10:57:18Z")

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I notice the spirt is back on sale for under £26 for zwave version. The zigbee is around £40 at reichelt.
