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Intermatic PE653 Pool Control System

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(Charles) #767

:+1: Thanks for everything!

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(Keith) #768

You bet @CAL7. It was a win-win.

(Barrett Richardson) #769

Hi @KeithR, are you officially stumped? Is there anything else that can be tried?

(Keith) #770

@Barrett_Richardson, I do have to admit to running out of ideas on the pool/spa mode not working. I’ve reviewed the logs carefully and the correct commands are being sent but ignored. I was looking back through this thread and was reminded that @gt1gt1 (Josh) reported the same symptoms and his logs looked very similar to yours. Mine works flawlessly on both SmartThings and Hubitat.

Josh, did you ever have any success with the pool/spa mode? Also, are you still getting those ArrayIndexOutOfBounds errors? That was about the time I went dark on this board for awhile. Finally, may I ask where you are located?

Thank-you for your patience gentlemen.
Keith

(Josh H) #771

@KeithR, I wasn’t able to get it going as I got toward end of season, and because of other issues,was just enjoying the pool, lol (lost half of my season due to a bad pump). I will probably be opening up in the next 2 weeks, and will start working on things again. Is there anything you recommend for me to look at/change? @Barrett_Richardson, if you don’t mind me asking, where are you in regards to Philly? I’m in South Jersey. Curious if we can put our heads together in person (or go half on a ticket for @KeithR )

(Barrett Richardson) #772

I am in King of Prussia. @KeithR how much was the sniffer?

(Barrett Richardson) #773

@KeithR is this something similar to what you use: https://www.suphammer.net/ If not can you provide a link? Or are you using zsniffer from the Devkit, or did you build your own? Would you be willing to loan what you use?

(Keith) #774

@barrett, I created a whole Pentoo Linux system on a laptop and installed a ton of open source software to use a HackRF hardware USB device. The HackRF is a general purpose software defined radio device. I could not find anything else when I worked on this back in 2016. It literally took months just to be able to sniff the packets.

The suphammer.net looks incredible. I may consider buying one at some point but what I have works for me for now. Based on the description and testimonials it looks like a great option. At $99 it also seems like a bargain. Forget the plane ticket, you get this for about the price of a nice meal.

To be honest, I am out of ideas but using a sniffer should clarify what is different between the remote and ST.

(Barrett Richardson) #775

I suspected as much. Thinking I will go for the suphammer option as long as you can help me make head or tales of what it is saying!

(Keith) #776

I’ll be happy to study the logs. Hopefully you’ll be able to filter them down to just the 653. From the descriptions it seems it does have filters. I’m here for you!

(Bruce Hobbs) #777

Wow, a lot of posts and info here.
I am a refugee from the Vera PE653 integration which I gave up on several years back. I would like to get my pool automation back up and running.
I have tried reading all the posts here but there are so many I am getting lost.
So, if you don’t mind a few questions from a noob.
Is there a concise current guide or faq on how to set this up somewhere?

Where I am at:
Right now my system is very simple. 2 speed pump and my pool with no spa. I have a solar heater but I do not need to automate this.

I have Keith’s DH up and running but it is only partially working. I can turn on the pump for speed 1 or 2. However, the pump status reverts to showing the speed 1 or 2 as off even though the pump is running. The temperature reading initially came up as correctly but now shows -18. ( BTW I had to use an IPad to configure the setting. As mentioned in an earlier post I could not save the setting from the Android app. )

I am unclear about a couple of things.

  1. do I need to setup the PE953 for this to work?
  2. does it matter what version the PE653 is? The remote says 31p which looks pretty old. Should I upgrade?

Seems like I am pretty close but missing a couple of steps. Any help much appreciated.
Thnx Bruce

(Bruce Hobbs) #778

One more thing. I plan at some point to switch to Hubitat. Would I be better off to wait get this set up in HE or is the transition from ST to HE relatively straight forward?
Advice much appreciated.

(Keith) #779

Porting to Hubitat is pretty much a do-over since you have to re-pair and reconfigure everything. That’s not to say you won’t get more familiar with everything. Worth it if the port won’t be for some time, otherwise I would straight there.

You do not need to set up the 953, but the ST DTH cannot do everything the 953 can, so I still pair my 953 with the 653 (after pairing the 653 to ST), so I have both options. However, contrary to earlier posts about initial versions, the two are no longer at odds with each other. They coexist nicely.

I would definitely update the 653 to version 3.4 of their firmware. There are definitely some bugs that Intermatic has fixed along the way and I can’t really support the older versions as I do not have a way to reproduce issues.

Best of luck…

(Keith) #780

@Barrett_Richardson, any update for us? Still planning to order the SupHammer?

I’d be happy to Paypal a one-third share ($40), @gt1gt1, how about you?

(Bruce Hobbs) #781

Thanks Keith.
I got fed up with the speed of my GoControl scene controllers and other things so I decided to go ahead with the Hubitat (which is on its way now). Will get the upgrade done and see if that helps, if not I won’t spend a lot of time on the ST but concentrate on the HE.
Cheers

(Barrett Richardson) #782

Oh, it’s ordered. Apparently shipping is by row boat.

(Charles) #783

Keith, this had me thinking… some time back, weren’t you experimenting with putting 653 programmability into the DH (setting the internal timers, etc.)?

(Josh H) #784

Sorry for the delay guys, just let me know who I need to PayPal. Any help I can give on this I will.

(Barrett Richardson) #785

That is awesome! And assuming it works happy to mail it to each other as needed. Row boat delivered it a few days ago from Norway and plan to invest quality time this weekend. @KeithR expect to start getting logs in the next day or two. (hopefully)

(Barrett Richardson) #786

@KeithR @gt1gt1 Ok gents, we are in business. Sniffer is sniffing. First set of data is turn spa on and off with 953. Second set of data below the ------------- is using DH. Probably a little confused because the DH never registers ‘Spa’’ before turning off. The good news is there is a difference. I haven’t studied the code to figure out what to change but I thought I would get this out to you first.

[D7E74CC7] 09 -> 07 :
[D7E74CC7] 09 -> 07 : Class 96, Method 06, Param 0x06042501FF
[D7E74CC7] 09 -> 07 :
[D7E74CC7] 09 -> 07 : Class 145, Method 00, Param 0x0005400101830101
[D7E74CC7] 09 -> 07 :
[D7E74CC7] 09 -> 07 :
[D7E74CC7] 09 -> 07 : Class 96, Method 06, Param 0x0604250100
[D7E74CC7] 09 -> 07 :
[D7E74CC7] 09 -> 07 : Class 145, Method 00, Param 0x0005400101830101
[D7E74CC7] 09 -> 07 :

[D7E74CC7] 01 -> 07 : Class 96, Method 06, Param 0x06272501FF
[D7E74CC7] 01 -> 07 : Class 145, Method 00, Param 0x0005400102870301
[D7E74CC7] 07 -> 01 : Class 145, Method 00, Param 0x0005400202870010020000000700000000001004000000000013250101000020000000000000000000
[D7E74CC7] 01 -> 07 : Class 145, Method 00, Param 0x0005400101830101
[D7E74CC7] 07 -> 01 : Class 145, Method 00, Param 0x00054002028400100202000201554A0013250100000103040100000000000000000000000000000000
[D7E74CC7] 01 -> 07 : Class 96, Method 06, Param 0x0627250100
[D7E74CC7] 01 -> 07 : Class 145, Method 00, Param 0x0005400102870301
[D7E74CC7] 07 -> 01 : Class 145, Method 00, Param 0x0005400202870010020000000700000000001004000000000013250101000020000000000000000000
[D7E74CC7] 01 -> 07 : Class 145, Method 00, Param 0x0005400101830101
[D7E74CC7] 07 -> 01 : Class 145, Method 00, Param 0x00054002028400100202000201554A0013250100000103040100000000000000000000000000000000
[D7E74CC7] 01 -> 07 : Class 96, Method 06, Param 0x06272501FF
[D7E74CC7] 01 -> 07 : Class 145, Method 00, Param 0x0005400102870301
[D7E74CC7] 07 -> 01 : Class 145, Method 00, Param 0x0005400202870010020000000700000000001004000000000013250101000020000000000000000000
[D7E74CC7] 01 -> 07 : Class 145, Method 00, Param 0x0005400101830101
[D7E74CC7] 07 -> 01 : Class 145, Method 00, Param 0x00054002028400100202000201554A0013250100000103040100000000000000000000000000000000