[OBSOLETE]Intermatic PE653 Pool Control System

Hey JC (@magicshot), it has been awhile.

Version 3.0.6 is not the latest and in fact is from about 2 years ago. The latest is version 4.0.2 and is documented in post #831. I highly recommend that version.

Regarding the new App, yes, I have heard several reports that the DTH does not play nice in the new App. I have not had the opportunity to tackle that as yet. It took a lot of iterations to get the UI to a good place and I don;t look forward to a big rework there… but I had not yet heard of the decom date and that will be here before we know it. One more thing on my list…

Keith

Hey Keith, good news. I found it. Happy to pass it around, figure if I need it later you can pass it back. Let me know how I can get it to you, if you still could use it.

I am concerned that the ‘classic’ app is announced to be deprecated October 14. Are you working on porting?

Noticed you updated the app, need to carve out some time to update. Do I have to start over or can I just post the new controller?

Thanks, I have updated, but the heat shows as 254 degrees. The classic app is going away on Oct 14. My pool closes in about a month and a half. I would love to test the new app before the pool closes down. Let me know if you need anything from me.

@Barrett_Richardson, glad you located the device. I would love to experiment with it for a bit and gain experience so I can instruct others. I’ll PM you with details.

You do not need to start over (resetting/pairing), just install the new DTH source code. It actually has a slightly different name so both old and new can coexist, then just a matter of changing the “Type” on your Pool Controller device(thing). Keep in mind there are now 3 separate DTH sources: (1) the main DTH, (2) the switch child device, and the (3) thermostat child device. The 2 child devices are optional but do provide added functionality.

Pool Control Community,

So the deadline has been set on the “old App”. Looks like just under 2 months to go. I will try to make this a priority. I have not as yet investigated the migration path for apps from old to new. Any of you already gone down this path for other apps, or can point me at a post or forum with a guide?

Thanks!

To work in the new app, everything in the UI needs to be related to a standard capability or to a custom capability/capability presentation that you’ve created in the CLI. The process isn’t tough, but the documentation isn’t complete yet. Also, the new app doesn’t provide as much flexibility in how you arrange tiles though, so there are new design questions. Groovy is still around for now, so it’s not a complete rewrite.

I’ve been working on a few other DTHs and had some success, but then the whole system went down a few weeks ago. It’s supposedly back up now, but I’m getting errors that make me believe it’s still unusable. Even when it’s working, development is painful since the device and capability presentations are cached and only refresh twice a day. My advice is to wait a while before you try to work on it, and hope that they fix/improve the process.

Here’s the thread about the process:

@KeithR no doubt this was a great deal of effort and we now are at a milestone with ST where we all need to migrate. I for one would be willing to support funding the work and your time. I suppose somewhere here it may tell us how we donate for your time? I would be interested if you are willing to start a funding account and commit to a rewrite to the new ST app?

Keith,

Have you had any luck trying to convert this for the new app? I am getting ready to close down my pool within the next few weeks, I could test if done before then. Hope all is well.

a few days ago Sammy updated my Hub to 000.032.00007. after I cannot use the device handler on the new app at all. it displays “checking Status” perpetually. to make matters worse they moved to a new Echo skill that is based on the new ST architecture. removing the OLD Skill completely disables voice control as well. Using my child device to attempt to turn on speed 4 (called Quick Clean for me) i do see the pump come on. It is not possible to repeat and turn it off. here are some logs.

706befc2-4c51-4454-8d30-7db726666fc4 2:43:05 PM: debug ----- rspFlg=true No Commands or Events

706befc2-4c51-4454-8d30-7db726666fc4 2:43:05 PM: debug ----- process84Event Firmware-PE653: 3.4 state.expansionVersion=3.4 EXPANSION_5043=true getP5043=true

706befc2-4c51-4454-8d30-7db726666fc4 2:43:05 PM: debug >>>>> ManufacturerProprietary(type:84, payload: 05 40 02 02 84 53 10 02 00 00 02 01 5C 68 00 04 2F 15 00 00 08 03 04 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 )

706befc2-4c51-4454-8d30-7db726666fc4 2:43:04 PM: debug <<<<< rspFlg=true dly:1000/1000 0 Commands, 0 Delays, 3 Events
<<<<< Event: “on” to child: 7C-ep10: Quick Clean switch (was: “off”)
<<<<< Event: “on” to swVSP4 (was: “off”)
<<<<< Event: “92” to temperature (was: “91”)

706befc2-4c51-4454-8d30-7db726666fc4 2:43:04 PM: debug ----- process84Event Firmware-PE653: 3.4 state.expansionVersion=3.4 EXPANSION_5043=true getP5043=true

706befc2-4c51-4454-8d30-7db726666fc4 2:43:04 PM: debug >>>>> ManufacturerProprietary(type:84, payload: 05 40 02 02 84 53 10 02 00 00 02 01 5C 68 00 04 2F 15 00 00 08 03 04 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 )

706befc2-4c51-4454-8d30-7db726666fc4 2:43:04 PM: debug ----- rspFlg=true No Commands or Events

706befc2-4c51-4454-8d30-7db726666fc4 2:43:04 PM: debug >>>>> ManufacturerProprietary(type:87, payload: 05 40 02 02 87 53 10 02 01 01 02 07 03 04 00 02 00 10 04 00 00 00 00 25 04 2F 15 01 00 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 )

706befc2-4c51-4454-8d30-7db726666fc4 2:43:03 PM: debug <<<<< rspFlg=false dly:1000/1000 3 Commands, 2 Delays, 0 Events
<<<<< Cmd to Device: MultiInstanceCmdEncap(parameter: [255], command: 1, instance: 19, commandClass: 37) --> 6006132501FF, delay 1000
<<<<< HubAction: 910005400102870301, delay 1000
<<<<< HubAction: 910005400101830101

706befc2-4c51-4454-8d30-7db726666fc4 2:43:03 PM: debug +++++ setVSPSpeedInternal() speed=4

706befc2-4c51-4454-8d30-7db726666fc4 2:43:03 PM: debug childOn called in parent: dni=7C-ep10 channelNumber(dni)=10

Thinking about moving the PE653 to Hubitat. Any opinions, caution or suggestions?

Hey Keith, We are close to the change over and closing my pool next week. Were you able to get a chance to take a look at this?

2nd, this is the main item keeping from migrating.

@rapfaff, I can appreciate your concern over the ST App and I share it. I really wish I would have had time by now to address this, but there have been a lot of changes on my side and I will soon be moving away from my current home and my pool. All the home automation must stay behind per contract so that will leave me without a PE653. I have avoided asking for any compensation as this has been a labor of love.

I remain committed to this community and would love to enable the migration to the new app but of course I’ll need a PE653 in order to develop and test the DTH on the new App. With that in mind I would now like to reach out to the entire forum to ask for backing to fund an additional PE653 that I can take with me to my new home as a piece of lab equipment (new home is a condo with a community pool). I have priced this out at approximately $500. If we can get just 10 members to throw in $50 that would put me back in business (I will make a similar plea in the HE forum). To enable this I have set up a GoFundMe page (below). Please consider funding this equipment and I’ll contribute the labor.

Keith

@magicshot, Please see my proposal in post #853. I hope I can continue this work…

Keith

@Rapfaff, I have considerable experience on both platforms. I really like the HE concept of running locallay (no cloud dependency), but the lack of an integrated App is a pretty strong drawback IMHO. Most HE users feel that the Dashboards provide everything they need, but after creating several, I still miss a single integrated app that can also display device event history. It’s just more seamless. Just wanted you to consider this before you jump.

Keith,

I’ve funded your entire goal. I believe people like you make the world a better place. I would strongly encourage EVERYONE using the code Keith and the other contributors gave us to contribute.

Certainly it is worth a few bucks from each of us!

Ron

Ron, David,

Thank-you so very much for your generous contributions! I have placed the order for my PE653 and am looking forward to its arrival.

I do still need some additional equipment to build out my lab so if anyone else has enjoyed this DTH and can afford a small contribution, please help support my work.

Thank-you ST community!

Keith

It’s the least I could do. I appreciate what you’re doing.

I’m in to help. Have enjoyed the Intemetec for a couple of years and beat the heck out of the $2,000+ the pool company wanted for a controller that only worked with another app.

@KeithR thank you for taking this on!

Thank-you @Timothy_Gates!

and thank-you to everyone who has contributed. As I mentioned in an earlier post, progress will continue to be slow through mid-November as I complete my move from house to condo, but I have been busy ordering and gathering parts for my setup. Here’s a photo of what I have so far:

I’ll post again once I have it wired up… Keith