Hue motion sensor (use ST hub, but no hue bridge)

Bluetooth? Is it not only zigbee?

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You need a hub no matter what. It will not connect without the Hue or Smartthings hub.

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The hue motion sensor is a Zigbee device. It has nothing to do with your phone or Bluetooth.

Hue “accessories,” including the Hue dimmer switch battery, the Hue tap, the hue button, and the hue motion sensor, are not exposed to smartthings when they are connected to a hue bridge. They will work fine with the hue bridge and you can create automations for them either through the Hue app or through Apple HomeKit if you happen to be using those, but smartthings just won’t see them at all. So some people will use them as a parallel means of control.

It is technically possible to connect some of these, but not all, directly to a smartthings hub. That includes the hue motion sensor. if you do it that way, it will be visible to smartthings but it will no longer show up in the Hue app or HomeKit.

Using these devices without a Hue bridge requires custom code and it’s one of those things that works for some people and not for others. (You will have to have a smartthings hub.) In particular, some people find that it just keeps disconnecting every couple of days and then they have to re-join it again. This may have to do with which of any repeaters it goes through or it may just be some flakiness.

In order to do this, just follow the instructions in the first post of this thread.

That would be the method for one of the new hue bulbs which does not require the hue bridge if you are only going to use Bluetooth. However, that method is not available for the motion sensor, which is what this thread is about.

The motion sensor requires a zigbee hub. Usually that is the hue bridge, some people have some success with using a smartthings hub instead. But it has nothing to do with the phone.

Thanks for the detailed explanation, i was trying to use smartthings because I would like to then use IFTT and create an automation like “if sensor feels motion than google send me a message” and doing this automaton is impossible with hue bridge. I will abandon the idea, thanks anyway

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Hi, I’m using this device handler already for some time and working fine. However with the new Smartthings app, I don’t seem to be able to read/use the Illuminance Measurement capability.

I can see the value when consulting the Smartthings web looking at the device, however in the Smartthings app this capability doens’t show and neither can use it in routines.

Anybody had the same problem and found suitable workarround?

I had the same challenge, deleted the device and reinstalled it

That’s what I’m looking for :slight_smile:

Unfortunately it keeps showing all measures except the Illuminance one at my end :frowning: It tried removing via Smartthings App and from IDE mutliple times, no changes.

Do you use Hue bridge in between?

Solution found:

I have found a correction on the device handler which corrects the Illuminance measurement with the new SmartThings app:

After updating the device handler code, removing and adding again the device, the illuminance measure becomes available both visual on the device info and with automations.


I use the same DH edit only in the part that contains the “model name” (SML001 to SML002) and currently it seems to work fine.
What is the use of changing the part that contains the “vid”?

If I recall, my post was just simplifying details in other posts. I am not even close to informed. Your question made me curious, though.

In short, it outlines the capabilities (i.e. illuminance). I found the following link:

Thanks for the update. I just loaded it we will see how it goes :slight_smile:

I’m trying to grasp the Lux functionality or the Hue Outdoor sensor. I was using a Weather Underground sensor but lumens started dropping out and became unreliable. I’ll take as much information you have regarding the Hue Sensor Lux and how to adjust it.
Yes, I want values on that level to trigger events.