Hub Firmware Release Notes - OTA - 16.9 - V2

http://www.dx.com/p/original-xiaomi-smart-ir-human-body-sensor-white-432833

This is according to this thread: Xiaomi Zigbee Door/Window Sensor, Motion Sensor, & Smart Button Device Type [beta]

I have 2 on order.

I actually did the same and can confirm the behaviour - it drives me nuts ā€¦

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After this update, about a third of my Z-wave stuff was not answering commands. I thought it was because I moved an Enerwave appliance module from behind a couch controlling a cabinet light (integrated halagin lights) to the other side of the room for the Christmas Tree (family demanded it be put up in that specific place). However I am not sure that is the case.

The things that showed up as failed, start at 12 foot away from, plus one wall all the way to the other end of the house.

I have a Remotec repeater on order. I am hoping adding it to the mesh will help.

did you do a z-wave repair after moving it?

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It wonā€™t hurt, but it wonā€™t help anymore than any other plug-in Z wave device like a pocket socket.

Devices made just to work as repeaters were useful in the first couple of generations of Z wave. But for the last three years pretty much every new device made that plugs in acts as a full power repeater. You donā€™t need the single purpose repeater devices anymore. And if you got a pocket socket or a light switch that is zwave plus, it will actually do you much more good then a classic Z wave single purpose device, because zwave plus has significantly longer range.

So Iā€™d recommend returning the single purpose repeater and getting a Z wave plus pocket socket instead.

Just remember that anytime you add a new zwave mains powered device, or you physically relocate an existing zwave device, you should runthe Z wave repair utility to make sure that each device knows who its true neighbors are.

https://support.smartthings.com/hc/en-us/articles/200981864-How-do-I-make-sure-my-Z-Wave-devices-are-routing-optimally-

Three times.

I am wondering if my Jasco switches (1 1/2 to 2 1/2 years old) are not capable of repeating. Is there a way I can tell if they do or donā€™t repeat? These are most of my Z-Wave devices.

I am moving towards newer switches such as the Enerwave ZW15SM or the new GE stuff you can buy in the green and black box.

I want all reporting (metering) switches as it gives me more information.

Pretty much any mains powered device should repeat except for smoke sensors. You can confirm with the manufacturer if you have any questions.

All the GE/Jasco switches are repeaters.

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Says itā€™s not a repeater? That could be, the reason the smoke sensors donā€™t repeat is because they are considered emergency devices. But I donā€™t know of any mains-powered light switch that doesnā€™t repeat.

I couldnā€™t imagine a switch not repeating, however the ability to repeat WELL would require a non-metal box. Also something to be considered for anyone putting these in old houses and thinking the repeater may work for them. Hint, it wonā€™t work well if at all. :slight_smile:

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@TheSmartestHouse page says the zooz valve is a repeater.

http://www.thesmartesthouse.com/products/zooz-zac03-z-wave-valve-control

The built-in Z-Wave signal repeater extends and strengthens the range of your Z-Wave network, ensuring fast and reliable connections.

Was there a note in the user manual?

edited to update Hmmmā€¦ the zooz ZAC03 valve user manual also says itā€™s a Z wave repeater.

Built-in Z-Wave signal repeater

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I believe Iā€™m an idiot or had a terribly lifelike dream. Just went through the manual again and it doesnā€™t say thatā€¦I donā€™t know where or why I thought so!

Happens to all of usā€¦somebody wrote a post about Lightify a few days ago and I heard it as LIFX. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Yep, all non-battery powered Z-Wave devices will automatically repeat signal, including the Zooz Valve Control. If a device can be both battery and DC powered, it will most likely not repeat signal even if powered by DC.

Iā€™ve done the 20-30 minute reset, pulled the batteries on my zigbee devices and disabled OTA updates. But Iā€™m losing connection with 1-2 ST motion sensors each day. They either quit reporting or get stuck reporting motion, essentially they stop updating. A battery pull fixes them each time.

Now Iā€™ve lost power reporting from my aeon outlets (Zwave). I use the power reporting to disable the turn lights off portion of my core Pistons. So now when we are in rooms while being still but still needing the lights, the lights turn off anyway. The power reporting loss coincided with the update. A zwave repair completes and shows no errors.

The power reporting will show up if I go into the app and refresh the device, but it wonā€™t send a change nor is it bring polled anymore pretty much rendering them useless. I have tried multiple DTH for each outlet but no luck so far restoring the polling/reporting.

My wife made sure that I understood that it had finally been stable for several months, which had brought her back from the threat of making me pull out all 100+ devices. But thus latest update has her hopping mad again. The false alarms of the garage door going up at night, the flashing lights in the bedroom, and now finding herself in the dark half the time while working on the computer or putting makeup on while getting ready is pushing her tolerance.

Why? All because I canā€™t control the update schedule? If we are stable why canā€™t we opt out? Iā€™m willing to deal with instability when I want additional features. Iā€™m willing to deal wi instability at a time of my choosing, instead of just prior or in the midst of the holiday season! Now Iā€™m between doing the holiday honey doā€™s or working on our ST to fix things that spworked just fine for months!

Whatever happened to ā€œan update is availableā€ instead of we just forced an update? Let me be happy an update behind instead of pissed of but up to date! Iā€™ll have no one to blame but myself when I donā€™t have a new feature, or decide to update and have to fix things. Instead I get the blame from my wife and family, at the holidays no less. Happy holidays to you too ST!

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Just imagine how much worse itā€™ll be after the holidays when thousands of new subscribers join. The platform will come screeching to a halt and all the performance problems will resurface.

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Sadly I have to join the line of complaints.
Before the update I could experience a few glitches, but it was few and acceptable.
Before the update I had a few issue with some Aeon multisensor 6 devices that didnā€™t communicate itā€™s values (motion) to the hub for some reason. Actually that began shortly before the firmware updateā€¦

AFTER the firmware update, glitches are on hourly/daily basis.
Fortunately NOT that lights goes on caused by false motion sensors as others have described.
My issue is the opposite, sometimes bulbs or Aeon Smart Switches does NOT turn on when triggered (CoRE). And once turned on, itā€™s a hit or miss regarding if it turns off again as programmed. That is also mostly my Aeon Smart Switches have is impacted for some reason, but it also happens with bulbs a few times.

AND the Aeon Smart Switches that is now struggeling to turn on and turn off correctly, they now have a latency of approx. 10 seconds, where they turned on after 1-2 seconds before firmware update.

So having the wife standing in a dark room, weving her arms to get lights turn on, then it makes my job to convince of the smart of having a ā€œsmart homeā€ quite more difficult.

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Iā€™ve noticed a big delay over the last few days. One of my GE lights is dropping constantly which is abnormal for it. The other GE lights are fine strangely. And one of my Iris contact sensors went into Christmas mode and needed to be reset. Thatā€™s something Iā€™ve only heard about, never seen.

Not sure if any of this is related, but they are unique problems since the update.

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If you havenā€™t submitted a support ticket, please do. My once super stable and rock solid zigbee mesh has been decimated by this latest firmware release, and Iā€™ve been working with ST engineers since it was released.

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I have been wondering, after I did log a case and someone offered to apply some tweaks (to my misfiring motion sensors) what these would be ā€¦ anyway - havenā€™t heard back from support and just had 3 misfires ā€¦ interestingly, when I manually refresh the sensor from the app - it triggers a motion event ā€¦ not sure if this is the intended behaviour as it usually just should refresh all states, correct?

if it should just refresh the sensor states but not trigger a motion event I believe this could be caused by a refresh being triggered by the system ā€¦ refreshing from within always triggers a motion event on all of my updated motion sensors ā€¦

Motion triggers from a refresh has always been a problem on a few motion sensors. I had hoped the firmware upgrade would fix this but rather it seems to have made matters worse and now even more sensors exhibit this problem.