HomeSeer HS-WD100+ and more (Simple DTH in post 27, advanced feature DTH in post 32)

I just installed my HS-WD100+ and I have the standard dimming working but I want to use the multi-tap to turn on more lights in the room without needing to use Rule Machine that is no longer available. His scene controller is great.

So anyone else notice the homeseer sticker is just covering the dragontech model?

Has anyone tried running these dths on the dragontech version to see if they actually have tge same capability? Or does hs put a custom firmware on them?

I am really leaning towards getting a 5 pack of these and a couple accessory switches to complete my house. I have Cooper’s right now which work great but are squishy and a few GE’s which are just ok. There are little quirks I have noticed with the GE.

Since this is a pretty big investment I was wondering if anyone had the accessory switch working and whether it worked well or not in a 3 way setup? The Cooper in a 3 way seems a bit problematic from reading their thread. I already have a 3 day lutron dimmer switch there and I plan to check on a traveler wire tonight. I want to have it so that double tap turns off both sets of hall way lights. These switches would essentially complete my house for everything I think is worth automating now so I want to make sure I get something that works well.

What was quirky with your GE’s? I have several that seem to be fine.

At least two above have said they got it working @Darwin @Spectyr

A couple of things I have noticed in the short time I have had it in. The switch manually turns on or off the lights. I can’t seem to manually adjust the dimming value from the wall locally. I can adjust it from the phone mobile app. Not sure why that is happening. UPDATE: It works fine with local dimming. I was getting confused because you press & hold to change dimming levels however I had also setup press & hold triggers that using the new feature turning off the same lamp. :confused:

I am not using it as a 3-way but I am enjoying it so far as a dual function dimmer light switch and scene controller. I just got mine installed and have started setting it up so in my den TV area I can control multiple things with the one wall switch to my lamps. The switch itself dims just the table lamps plugged into the wall outlets controlled by the new switch in the den. I am using the 2-TapUp to toggle all the other lights in the room ON-OFF so I don’t waste using the 2-TapDown for the same lights. The 3-TapUp toggles just the Ceiling Fan Light ON-OFF. The 3-TapDown instead toggles my ceiling fan motor from Low-Medium-High speeds when I elect to override my temperature control smartapp to the fan. The Press&HoldDown sets my movie lighting in the room by dimming everything to 25% and the Press&HoldUp gives me toggle ON-OFF of all lights to 100%.

FYI: In my den I don’t have access to switches for my ceiling fan motor or lights so this solution was ideal for me.

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My GE’s have 100w LED equivalents and they sputter during dimming. Other than that they seem to work fine. I have not used them long enough to notice too much lag or delay. I need to look into whether I can speed up the dimming rate or just make them instant on/off. That would be ideal. Also, I am not used to the interface of the GE’s. If the garage lights are half dim then I have to hold down the up rocker to dim it back up. I am not used to that and would prefer my lights just came on full bright each time. I am thinking to replace that with just an on/off switch but it is already installed so I will live with it for now. I think the homeseer would be nice because I could make double tap full bright. I am still learning all the minor differences between switches. I like my cooper’s a lot.

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So far I have been pleased with the way the HomeSeer/Dragontech WD100+ has been working with the custom device handler by @Darwin that exposes the additional functions of Double-Tap-Up, Double-Tap-Down, Triple-Tap-Up, Triple-Tap-Down, Press&Hold-Up, Press&Hold-Down. Six additional button control opportunities.

The issue has been how to take advantage of it all. Smart Lighting smartapp is fine but is limited to only four button and it can not do 3-speed ceiling fan control as well. The Button Control+ smartapp fit best for my needs but it also was designed around the Minimote which only has 4 buttons. I ended up modifying Bruce’s code to be able to use all six possible events from the new HS-WD100+
The code is Button Controller Plus and is located here below:

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I have minor updates available to the HomeSeer HS-WD100+ dimmer and HS-WS100+ on/off switch device handlers that adds the “numberOfButtons” attribute so that the new CoRE rules engine (thanks @ady624) can automatically identify the correct number of available device buttons. These also correct a minor issue where the DH’s were not properly distinguishing between physical and digital/virtual button presses (this issue would not have affected you unless you specifically had actions determined by physical vs. digital/virtual button presses). The repository locations remain the same as before:

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Thank you for adding support for CoRE. Awesome, thank you. Do you support more than just pushed and held? If so, maybe we can find a way to tell CoRE that too… Since they are non-standard, people may use them and find out they don’t work with regular buttons that only know pushed and held…

The double/trip tap and hold functions are currently mapped only to the button pushed capability right now (6 buttons total for both up/down) cases. The button capability mapping was added for compatiility with existing SmartApps, but some thought should probably be put into whether or not there is a better long term architecture for these functions. I also added the “numberOfButtons” attribute to the Nexia One Touch DH, which has 15 buttons (both pushed and held are supported) and that appears to work with CoRE in limited testing. Both the HomeSeer switches and One Touch appear to support a button release capability after being held which I didn’t add, but I suppose it could be handy for dimming or other similar functions.

@ady624, I don’t want to derail this thread, but also wanted to add to the comments of others and say how impressed I’ve been with not only your skills and dedication in the creation CoRE, but also with your push to make it GPL. You’ve done some phenomenal work and continue to push ST app state of the art.

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I have a bunch of Dragontech and will give it a try tonight. It would be awesome if they are the same.

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Tried the Dragontech dimmer and switch and it’s a NO GO on double/tripple/held functions. No event on IDE log at all for those functions except ON/OFF. Guess it’s time to get some HomeSeer.

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You can tell from the conformance statements. The Homeseer models are using the “central scene” command set The DragonTech are not. :sunglasses:

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I love those virtual buttons! It reminds me when I looking at the HomeSeer vs the standard dimmers on my ST and I get to control those button actions directly from the device Thing in the mobile app. :grin:

Just food for thought… consider adding the visual indication of tapping those buttons like @ChadCK does with his device handler code on the fan speed buttons so there is visual feedback indication to the user that he initiated that action?

Thanks for the suggestion @dalec. I was pondering adding tap/hold indication a while back. I’ll see about getting that in. This would also be useful for verifying that your switch is working properly without having to look at logs or setting-up test actions in an app.

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Yeah, I guess what I was getting at is they have the Same hardware. So it’s just a firmware limitation. Technically the dragontechs could be upgraded via fw patch to have the same capabilities.

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I went ahead and added a secondary control tile attribute to indicate the last tap/hold press for the HS-WD100+ dimmer device handler. This only involved adding a handful of SLOCs, and aside from maybe me being a little lazy, I was trying to minimize added complexity to the code. On the downside, it does take away some of the dimmer level slider real-estate, but at least for me, I don’t seem to miss it. I wish there were more options for status placement on the multi-attribute tile. Let me know if the reduced slider area causes issues for anyone and/or if you would greatly prefer a different approach:

I can update to the on/off switch device handler as well; I’ll probably convert that to use use a multi-attribute tile while I’m at it. It may be best to do that anyway for consistency.

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S W E E T ! ! ! I’m checking github now. :grinning:

@darwin I think the slider is the same size … just moved over to make room for the multi-attribute. That is just fine with me.

FYI UPDATE: It displays differently for Android & WindowsPhone, With Android the multi-attribute is on continuous scroll with the dimming level. FWIW, it’s still functional but waiting for the scrolling info is not nearly as effective as iOS. I will get a quick video to show. I also added a screen capture for those with Windows Phone; it is the crudest display of info but at least it shows all and visually triggers the color background when touched.

Sorry for poor video but my ipad stinks at taking good video that needs to be rotated. The video shows the scrolling on the Android, visual feedback of taps, speed of updating the multi-attribute field, etc.

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Thanks @dalec. Interesting. I knew there were some rendering differences between the platforms, but I didn’t realize how significant they were for some of the multi-attribute keys - and that the multi-attribute controls may even get mapped to single attribute tiles on the Windows Phone. Really appreciate the image and video captures!

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I was hoping for a little bit of direction, I recently purchased 4 of these switches (2 WD + 2 WS), and although one of the WS seems to be experiencing the on/off/on cycle (I will attempt a RMA soon), I seem to be getting what I believe to be a bit of cross-talk with the dimming modes.

I did not define any configuration for buttons 5/6, but my Living Room WD switch uses both the “Button Controller Plus” (for 2/3 tap actions) and the default “Automate Lights & Switches” to turn on and set level.

Each time I Press and Hold, my lights seem to go full max, full min, or snap back to the dimming level. Has anyone had a similar experience, or does this switch option not play well with the other SmartApp?

The apps should work great together. It just sounds to me like you setup competing configurations which you didn’t intend. Let me know exactly what you configured for each of the buttons in Button Controller Plus as well as “Automate Lights & Switches”. Maybe I can help you figure out what you got going on. Maybe you found a bug in the smartapp?

FYI: it is always a good practice to post your question about a custom smartapp in the thread on the smartapp itself. That is the one that the author and other users with questions or issues typically monitors. Someone with your same issue might not be seeing it here. :slight_smile:

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