Hello, Home Phrase Director - Control modes (through hello home phrases) based on occupancy and "sun state"

After spending a lot of time trying to debug the last sunset fail in February, when it happened this time (late March) I decided to just leave it alone and see what happened.

Failed day one
Failed day two
Failed day three
Worked day four

With no intervention on my part at all.

Wouldn’t be that difficult.

I’ll think about this one and get back to you all.

I haven’t see problems in the long time though…

I would contact support. If your app isn’t catching sunset it’s not my code it’s something on the backend. Things happen.

My problem with using something like a lux value is that can fluctuate and had the potential for a ton of false positives

@tslagle13, sunset events started firing correctly after adding this app: Is it me or schedules not firing this evening?

Must have been a coincidence. The setting of sunrise and sunset states is unrestricted. You cannot prevent my app from see and acting upon sunrise and sunset events no matter what you do.

This is how it works.

If the app sees a sunrise/sunset event and your home is in an allowed mode it will set the correct sun state and run the necessary hello home phrase.

If the app sees a sunrise/sunset event and your home is outside of the allowed modes it will set the sun state and skip running the phrase until the next time your home enters a mode it is allowed to run in

The sunrise/sunset issue cannot be fixed by an app. There is a theory that when you subscribe another app to sunrise/sunset it moves your hub up in the queue. This is probably what happened here.

According to the CTO of SmartThings the only fix for the sunset issue is a new scheduler they are rolling out this weekend and Hub V2. Again another likely possibility you saw your sunset phrase get triggered today. The new scheduler might be in place:)

If you have further issues with sunset triggers, including my app, please contact Smartthings support. They are they only avenue for a solution for this.

The app that is being referred to is using the old way of scheduling sunrise/sunset by checking the times at 1 am for the current days sunrise/sunset. It doesn’t use the sunrise/sunset event that is supposed to be triggered.

That version of my app was denied by smartthing for official supoort.

Can’t update OP so i’m posting it here. New link on GitHub


GitHub says that this was updated yesterday… is that just because you moved things around a little bit, or did you make any changes?

moved stuff

I cannot figure out how to uninstall this app. I go to Convenience->Hello, Home Phrase Director->Uninstall and I get an error that says “An unexpected error occurred.”

I use “Smart Alarm Security”, which I set to arm itself at 11:00 pm (by having it automatically switch to Night Mode at 11:00 pm. “Hello, Home” switches the mode upon sunset, which is way too early to arm it for “Stay”. I wish there was a way to have the app let you select a time to switch mode, rather than forcing you to select between Sunset and Sunrise.

Any help on uninstalling this app?

There is an uninstall issue right now…support is looking into it. That was March 25th and I still can’t uninstall.


No errors in the log. Not sure whats going on.

Might be on the STs side? I don’t know…

P.S. I also cannot uninstall


Submitted a patch to STs

I have a request to have an offset time on sunrise /sunset as well. Right now I am using another city for my location as an offset. Thank you for this app @tslagle13

Use your hello, home phrase to do this.

Just have that phrase you want offset run at that offset.

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You are right. Now that was easy. Thank you!

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Can’t uninstall either. I’ve had a trouble ticket in (multiple, actually, including missed events and AM/PM confusion) for over a week with no real solutions.

Side note. I have a timed night event scheduled for 12:01am (US Central Time) to catch any lights that we didn’t turn off. It’s interesting to see the variation in the time that action actually runs in the log. Last night it was 5 minutes late. For a midnight event. I can’t imagine that’s a peak time on the server.

Hub 2.0 – and getting away from the frail ST back end – can’t happen fast enough.

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I also have a ticket open. They were supposed to have an answer to me on Monday… Not so much… I have two instances installed that I can’t uninstall, and a presence device (phone) that I can’t remove which always shows me as present. Ugh.

Yeah, I opened an Uninstall ticket as well on Thursday. Crickets from ST…

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