Globe Suite and ST Integration

[MinerJason (Jason)]

@JDRoberts

@Flakie99

They are either really useless at writing code or stringing people along.

Or it’s a really hard problem. (Hardware is hard.)

Or Marketing doesn’t understand what engineering is saying.

I’ve been the engineer in both of those two situations and it’s frustrating for them, too.

I used to use the example that engineering had come up with a red model and a blue model and marketing comes back from a meeting and says “great news! I sold them a purple one!”

And engineering would say “we don’t have a purple one.“

And marketing would say “I know. But we have a red one and a blue one. Can’t you just sort of mush those together and make a purple one?“

I also wonder how much of the delays/issues with getting this integration rolled out is on the SmartThings side.

[JDRoberts]

@MinerJason

I also wonder how much of the delays/issues with getting this integration rolled out is on the SmartThings side.

Shouldn’t be at all at this point unless Globe had questions about the smartthings API that they were not getting answers to.

On the new platform, the device manufacturers take responsibility for the integrations, develop them, and publish them. They shouldn’t have to wait on smartthings for anything other than information.

[MinerJason (Jason)]

@JDRoberts

@MinerJason

I also wonder how much of the delays/issues with getting this integration rolled out is on the SmartThings side.

Shouldn’t be at all at this point unless Globe had questions about the smartthings API that they were not getting answers to.

On the new platform, the device manufacturers take responsibility for the integrations, develop them, and publish them. They shouldn’t have to wait on smartthings for anything other than information.

I understand that’s the goal, just wasn’t sure if the new platform and documentation was at that point yet.

[JDRoberts]

Platform, yes, although still in development. The documentation is apparently still missing a lot of pieces though.

See, for example,

Event POST Webhooks for devices

Maybe it’s just me, but after a few weeks reading the developer docs, i’m still not particularly clearer on how SmartThings is put together. I’ve successfully authenticated to the REST API and can read locations, rooms, devices etc, and also send commands to a device as required. What i need to do is receive an incoming POST payload to a self-hosted URL endpoint from hub-connected devices when they change status. For example, a door sensor sending a JSON structure with the condition of “open” or closed". Do i really need to create an “app” to do this? It seems a little over-the-top. I’ve created a Webhook automation within the developer workspace and can receive “ping” lifecycle requests, but whenever i try to save it, i receive an unspecified error about the “upstream target” timing out…

[Nezmo]

@JDRoberts

The documentation is apparently still missing a lot of pieces though.

Because I think ST as a whole don’t have a level playing field yet (still). And it also seems the people developing the Connect app are disconnected from the back end folks because it’s a freaking mess.

I think you need to lower your expectations to be honest. Come back in two years and they may be half way there.

[bigstevep]

Global Suite has a serious problem getting this right as they are using Tuya to create access it looks like. If you go to Tuya, Global Suite, Smart Life and I’ll bet there are others you’ll see that they are using the same interface. I’ll bet it’s just user name and password all getting stored in the same Tuya database and from there it decides what vendor to hook your app up to. I’m sure any Tuya type device will hook up to any of the apps. I’ve tried a few and yes they can be added to any app. Bottom line is I’ll bet dollars to donuts that Global Suite isn’t really even involved in the cloud to cloud interface between the Tuya/Global Suite apps and Smartthings app, it’s Tuya/Smartthings.
If I’m right it will be out sometime in March, just not sure about the year so don’t hold your breath. It’s coming but so is Christmas, I’ll bet on Christmas.

[gtampako]

Just forget end of February

[vf21213 (Victor)]

Any suggestions on how to integrate tuya/smartlife app devices with ST beside IFTTT and virtual switches because that seems to be acting up for a few days now would be greatly appreciated. Cheers!

[uber2k]

Life is too short, I’d get off this topic and come back in 1 month to see if things have progressed

[uber2k]

I use virtual switches and Alexa

[Andytkd (Andy)]

think its time to ditch my Tuya bulbs and plugs

[vf21213 (Victor)]

I couldn’t agree more. I’ve wasted so much time these days with the Tuya bulbs that makes me once again agree with that old saying that I’m to poor to afford buying cheap shoes.

[JDRoberts]

@vf21213

makes me once again agree with that old saying that I’m too poor to afford buying cheap shoes.

I haven’t heard that one before, but that’s how I feel exactly! Of course, I’m also an engineer, so I do put value on good engineering.

[hongtat (HONGTAT TAN)]

It’s possible to Tuya-convert to Tasmota and integrate with ST…

[bigstevep]

Yep you have to flash the firmware. If you want to use Tuya devices outside of the Tuya app use Homeseer. They have a free plugin that works.

BTY they also have a free plugin that connects to Smartthings so you can use all of your ST devices there too.

[Babar_Khan (Dr Babar Khan)]

All silent on the front!
Any news?

[Tony_Antunez]

Globe Suite just showed up on my SmartThings App a few hours ago

[Tony_Antunez]

But it looks like none of the devices are just showing up — can anybody test this ?

[Flakie99]

Not working for me either. Spinning circle for the last 5 minutes. Not sure what it means by “Devices available in other countries”. Guess I have to get on a flight to Timbuktu before I can add my lights.

[Flakie99]

Actually it is exactly the same as it was when they broke it last time. An empty list where the devices should be. Looks like exactly nothing has changed. They have probably “accidentally” added it back in again and no doubt will remove it again soon for another couple of months.