# Get a new ST hub? I have the Gen 2 hub now. ST website? **URL:** \ **Category:** Devices & Integrations\ **Created:** [November 5, 2022, 1:07am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/get-a-new-st-hub-i-have-the-gen-2-hub-now-st-website/251274 "2022-11-05T01:07:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![guessrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6a8cbe/32.png) [@guessrow](https://community.smartthings.com/u/guessrow)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2022, 1:07am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/get-a-new-st-hub-i-have-the-gen-2-hub-now-st-website/251274/1 "2022-11-05T01:07:21Z")
Hello, I got my ST Hub in 2016- thinking it’s a Gen 2… It has worked perfectly all that time. I have maybe 50 devices- mainly switches, outlets and sensors for home automation. I’m worried that the hub will die someday and and I will have to reset every switch/outlet/etc. If I buy a new hub before the old one dies, is there some sort of simplified process to setting the new hub up? I see Gen 3 hubs for sale on Amazon. What’s the deal with SmartThings? Theyre not fading away, are they? I can’t easily find a ST website that is pushing their stuff- hubs, etc. What about Matter? is that happening? Good luck -jim I’m in America (Minnesota) BTW. ---
**Author:** ![jkp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/jkp/32/117130_2.png) [@jkp](https://community.smartthings.com/u/jkp)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2022, 1:14am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/get-a-new-st-hub-i-have-the-gen-2-hub-now-st-website/251274/2 "2022-11-05T01:14:46Z")
> [@guessrow](#): > > What’s the deal with SmartThings? Theyre not fading away, are they? Not at all. ST got out of the hardware business but will continue with the software and backend. Aeotec is now producing and selling the hub and sensors. > [@An Update Regarding our Hardware](https://community.smartthings.com/t/an-update-regarding-our-hardware/208259): > > We’ve been following the comments on the Community regarding SmartThings hardware and wanted to help clarify some information on this matter. Earlier this year, we highlighted plans to enlist companies that are leaders in the smart home / automation space to manufacture and distribute SmartThings hardware. We are expanding our partnership with Aeotec to work with our European market and will share more information when available. Please stay tuned to our official channels for future announcements. [https://www.amazon.com/Aeotec-SmartThings-Gateway-Compatible-Assistant/dp/B08TWDNQ5Q/ref=sr\_1\_1?keywords=AEOTEC&qid=1667610754&qu=eyJxc2MiOiI1Ljg2IiwicXNhIjoiNC45OCIsInFzcCI6IjQuNjYifQ%3D%3D&sr=8-1&ufe=app\_do%3Aamzn1.fos.f5122f16-c3e8-4386-bf32-63e904010ad0](https://www.amazon.com/Aeotec-SmartThings-Gateway-Compatible-Assistant/dp/B08TWDNQ5Q/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=AEOTEC&qid=1667610754&qu=eyJxc2MiOiI1Ljg2IiwicXNhIjoiNC45OCIsInFzcCI6IjQuNjYifQ%3D%3D&sr=8-1&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.f5122f16-c3e8-4386-bf32-63e904010ad0) > **[Smart Home Hub for SmartThings](https://smartmatters.co/products/aeotec-smart-home-hub-smartthings-aeohubv3)** > > Aeotec Smart Home Hub is Samsung SmartThings Hub v3 for smart home automation. Previously GP-U999SJVLGDA is now the GP-AEOHUBV3US Z-Wave Hube, Zigbee Hub, and WiFi Hub for all your Works With SmartThings products and more. Compatible with... as for replacing, I will let others discuss that topic. ---
**Author:** ![Automated\_House](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/automated_house/32/99641_2.png) [@Automated\_House](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Automated_House)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2022, 1:21am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/get-a-new-st-hub-i-have-the-gen-2-hub-now-st-website/251274/3 "2022-11-05T01:21:46Z")
I wouldn’t get a new one. There’s no migration utility and the new Matter over Thread features that just came out could be added to your ecosystem with a $40 Eve energy plug. ---
**Author:** ![JDRoberts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/jdroberts/32/56577_2.png) [@JDRoberts](https://community.smartthings.com/u/JDRoberts)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2022, 1:29am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/get-a-new-st-hub-i-have-the-gen-2-hub-now-st-website/251274/4 "2022-11-05T01:29:02Z")
> [@Automated\_House](#): > > new Matter over Thread features that just came out could be added to your ecosystem with a $40 Eve energy plug. Many of the smart speakers, including over a dozen of the echo models, some of the Google home models, and the Apple HomePod mini will all also be thread border routers in a few months. So most people using home automation will likely already have a Thread border router in their home. 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![guessrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6a8cbe/32.png) [@guessrow](https://community.smartthings.com/u/guessrow)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2022, 1:59am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/get-a-new-st-hub-i-have-the-gen-2-hub-now-st-website/251274/5 "2022-11-05T01:59:01Z")
Thank you, So if/when I get a new hub, what is the process of migrating everything over to the new hub? Do I have to reset every individual device so it can be added to the new hub? It seems like it could be a frustrating process… -Jim ---
**Author:** ![ogiewon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/ogiewon/32/13743_2.png) [@ogiewon](https://community.smartthings.com/u/ogiewon)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2022, 2:06am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/get-a-new-st-hub-i-have-the-gen-2-hub-now-st-website/251274/6 "2022-11-05T02:06:16Z")
> [@guessrow](#): > > Do I have to reset every individual device so it can be added to the new hub? Yes > [@guessrow](#): > > It seems like it could be a frustrating process… Agreed ---
**Author:** ![Automated\_House](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/automated_house/32/99641_2.png) [@Automated\_House](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Automated_House)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2022, 2:55am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/get-a-new-st-hub-i-have-the-gen-2-hub-now-st-website/251274/7 "2022-11-05T02:55:19Z")
This is true. Some devices you have already might support matter over thread instead of buying the V3/Aeotec Hub. eero Pro, eero Beacon, eero Pro 6, eero 6, Echo (4th Gen), Nest Hub gen 2, Nest wifi, Nest wifi pro, Apple HomePod, HomePod mini, certain Apple TV Models, etc etc. So yeah, don’t sweat having a V2 hub. 😁 it’s currently on the same firmware update schedule as the V3 hub, too.