Does anyone else have issues with GE Link bulbs dropping off the system? I had a serious issue with v1 where they would work fine for some time then drop off randomly and I would have to remove and re-pair them to get it to work again and then they would drop again. My solution was to add them and control them through Hue but before I got to fully test it my v2 hub came in.
With v2 the GE Links were solid…until a few days ago, I have had random ones show up to add in connect new device that lead to nothing and again I have had ones drop off and lose control. I would try the Hue route again but Hue does not work with v2 yet for everyone according to tech support.
Has anyone discovered a fix for this?! It’s so frustrating - I use the link bulbs for majority of my house.
Can’t link to my bridge - they told me its a known issue for some and they had me send my hue’s mac address to them to work on it. Haven’t heard anything back. Since day 1 I haven’t been able to connect to hue even though it works fine on its own and smartthings sees the bridge.
Hey @Tyler , do you have any more specific information on the bug with the firmware? Have you spoken to GE about it? I tried to escalate it through Wink but they just said “there are no firmware updates available for the bulb”.
I haven’t talked to GE directly about this issue, but I’ve spoken with someone who has. They are aware of the issue and it seems to be fixable over the air. If you can live with the pain for a few more months I’d say to keep them.
Our hub does not yet support ZigBee OTA updates, but we’re working to quickly add this functionality exactly for these reasons.
Its not a fix for the dropping, but in order not to reset up everything again you can do this: Go into IDE. Find the Device network ID (“E56F” for ex) for the newly popped up bulb and copy it down. Delete that new bulb device.
Open the set up device it should be (Outdoor light 1 for ex), copy and paste new bulb # into the network ID and delete any Zigbee ID there.
That matches them back together and all the smartapps will start working again.
Read the manufacturer’s instructions for these bulbs – – they almost certainly say that they are intended to always be on power, not to be turned on and off.
If so, is it a better idea to have them “always on” and use a z-wave motion sensor outside to control the lights?
Yes, but getting the motion sensors to work correctly outdoors can be tricky. PIR motion sensors work by detecting very tiny changes in heat moving across the sensor. If placed outdoors, you tend to get a lot of false alarms from Gusts of air or even a cloud passing across the sun.
For this reason, most of the Z wave and zigbee motion sensors say they’re not intended for outdoor use. Aeon Labs Multi sensor is rated for outdoor use, but the manufacturer specifically suggests disabling the motion sensor function and just using it for light and temperature if it is used outdoors.
There are some people who have been successful using zwave motion sensors in a sheltered area covering a fairly small detection zone, so you can always try it. But it can be problematic.
There are two main options. The first is to use Mike Maxwell’s zone management smart app which will take the readings from several motion sensors to create a zone. This can significantly reduce false positive alerts.
Alternatively, people tend to use different technologies outdoors. Geopresence and/or Ibeacons Can work for detecting household members. Trip beams and pressure mats are other alternatives.
And many people have motion-activated outdoor floods which are not connected to their smartthings system in combination with other lights which are Networked, but through indoor smart switches. This is what we do at my house. But different things will work for different people.
Maybe I just just leave the current old ones, de-activate the old motion sensors, and try rigging up some z-wave motion sensors outdoors to the GE Link bulbs in the old fixtures, and see if I get decent results…
It’s worth a try. Outdoor motion sensors are one of those things where “all home Automation is local.” It just depends on really small issues like air patterns.
If you p’re going to invest a lot of money though, I would also note that weather patterns are different at different times of the year, and a system that works perfectly in November may have a ton of false alerts in July. It Can just be hard to predict.
Since they will be used for lighting and I can always just disconnect and go back to the old way, it doesn’t really matter too much if there are some false alarms. The flood lights are pointed at the driveway and backyard so if they come on randomly a couple of times it shouldn’t make a huge difference. Not for home security.
Z-Wave Plus: Z-Wave Plus® devices act as signal repeaters for the Z-Wave Plus network, so multiple devices result in more possible transmission routes, which helps eliminate RF “dead spots” in the network. Any Z-Wave Plus enabled device displaying the Z-Wave Plus logo can be used with Z-Wave Plus devices from other manufacturers.
But I am assuming that is just some generic text they copy and pasted over there…