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FAQ: Full list of buttons and remotes confirmed to work with SmartThings [Not all devices listed work with the 2020 Platform]
(US and U.K.) Logitech has just released a new button, which basically acts as a one button remote. It’s quite large, about the size of a drinks coaster, and will retail for about $40. It comes with its own Bluetooth bridge which is a little wallwart that plugs into any outlet
At $39 each, this is an expensive option, but it will be very useful for some people. You do need to buy the $99 starter kit ( The bridge and two buttons) to get the Bluetooth bridge for your first purchase.
And in the U.K.:
The flic button, which is very similar and already has harmony integration, is much smaller and also has its own IFTTT channel. It now regularly sells for 4 for $99 on the manufacturer site. But it requires a phone or tablet to be nearby.
Because the Logitech pop has its own Bluetooth bridge, you don’t have to worry about the phone being nearby. The large size also makes it much more suitable for use by young children, as it would definitely pass the choke tube test.
The battery is replaceable and is supposed to last about two years. Like the Flic button each Pop button can have a single press, double press, or long hold.
It has official integrations with IFTTT, the harmony hub, SmartThings, the Phillips hue bridge, WeMo, and a few other systems. Set up for these is easy, but obscure. There are instructions on the Logitech site, but none in the box. Basically, you just Open the pop app, choose the menu, choose devices, and tap the plus sign and then you will get a list of available integrations.
The SmartThings integration works just like echo or IFTTT – – you can select specific devices that you want to authorize to be available to the pop app. Then when you set the controls for an individual pop button, you can select from those devices. You can also combine SmartThings devices with other devices from other systems that you have authorized to pop. You can even have a single button press trigger both an IFTTT recipe and turn on some devices. That’s a very nice feature. Again, the instructions are obscure but the process is actually pretty easy.
SmartThings doesn’t know that the pop button exists, but when you use a pop button to turn on a SmartThings-controlled device, the SmartThings mobile app does update that device status at the same time that it is sending the command.
The press required for the single press is quite light. My service dog was able to learn it in three or four tries, much faster than the Flic which took several days of training. When we put it on the wall I was also able to work it easily with my knee.
It’s clearly a cloud to cloud integration for most things, and there is a noticeable lag for the SmartThings controlled devices versus the Phillips hue bridge controlled devices. At my house that lag was 2 to 3 seconds. But it was less than the lag I typically get for IFTTT. It may vary differently at someone else’s house.
The biggest advantage it has relative to the Flic is that it has its own connection through its bridge to your Wi-Fi so you don’t need to have a phone nearby. The size will just depend on the use case. For some use cases people will want the larger button, for some they will want the smaller. The tactile feel for both is very similar, solid rubbery button with a soft click.
This picture shows the SmartThings motion sensor, the Logitech pop button, and the flic button.
(UK) NodOn NIU Le Bouton
This is a small Bluetooth button similar to the Flic in the US, but a little bigger. Single press, double press, and hold. It does not connect directly to SmartThings, but it does have its own IFTTT channel, again just like the Flic. Comes in many different colors. So if you are in the EU and you had been wishing you could buy a flic, these are worth looking at. You can buy them from Amazon France, some of the specialty home automation retailers like Vesternet ( currently £28) , or the manufacturer.
Like the Flic, it needs a nearby Bluetooth device with Internet, either a phone or a tablet, or it can’t work.
Manufacturer site, in english:
(US) Leviton VRCS4, mains-powered. Typically costs around $125.
This one is tricky to get set up, but appears to work well once it is. There are two different models. One does not control the current, so it acts only as a scene controller and will not work if the Internet is down. The other model has one of its buttons dedicated to controlling the line that it is wired into, but then that means one of the buttons is reserved for that purpose. So read the thread carefully so you know which one will fit your own needs.
The Fibaro button has finally been released. Unfortunately, multiple community members have reported that it just doesn’t work very well. It’s supposed to have tap, double tap, and long hold but the device is not reporting all of the button presses correctly. So I’m listing it here because people will expect to find it here, but it doesn’t seem to be a reliable option at this time.
See discussion in the following thread:
(US and U.K.) Push Microbot and Prota bridge from Naran. “A robot finger.”
This is a strange and expensive little device but it can solve problems that other devices can’t. It’s available on Amazon in both the US and the UK. It’s from a Korean company with very strong engineering credentials.
The “push” is just a very small actuator. You position it to push a single button, say on an existing coffee maker or dishwasher or even a laptop.
You can pair it to a phone with Bluetooth, in which case you can just use it from that phone. This still has value to people like me who have very limited hand function.
But when it really gets interesting is when you add the $89 Prota bridge. Then you can schedule it, operate it remotely, and it has its own IFTTT channel which gives you SmartThings integration.
I don’t expect most people will want this – – it’s just too expensive for the purpose. But there will be some people who have a specific use case where this is a fast, easy, and fairly good-looking solution.
Was just reading your update re the fibaro button - somewhat disappointed if actual use feedback is not so great/reliable.
I nearly purchased one but realized I made a schoolboy error (was wrong frequency -European standard) thanks to an eBay seller who corrected me. Are these yet to be released in the US?
Let’s hope manufacturer tweaks something to get it corrected as I really think theres a need for this type of simple use device. Fibaro have to live up the their amazing YouTube advert for the button.
I have anoher button type on Kickstarter called Dot that I’m backing - they’re keen to be smart home friendly so we’ll see if that translates to ST friendly.
I have the logi pop too, not massively impressed but it works.
I’m also considering making something as a hack project with an esp8266 microcontroller - loving the ease of that $5 beauty.
I have a question about the Aeon Minimote buttons and not sure this is the correct place to ask. There are 4 buttons under the slider; 3 are labeled (plus, minus, join) but the bottom left is an unlabeled button. What does it do? Can this be programmed?
Yeah, there are other places that are better to ask this, but the buttons inside the case are for administrative purposes. Adding a new device to the network, associating two devices, etc. They are not programmable. See the user manual.
If you need a battery powered device with more control options, take a look at the remotec listed up thread in post 43. It’s not much bigger than the minimote and has 24 control options.
Has anyone had any luck with getting the Lutron to work in parallel with the Hue Bridge? I’d like to implement this if it is possible, but it looks like it did what JD said, stole the bulb from Hue Bridge.
Discussion of this device in the following thread:
Please post followups there, I’d like to keep this FAQ just to list the devices. Thanks!
Just came across this 4-button Sylvania switch:
It seems to be different than the lightify dimmer previously discussed. Is the device handler created for the dimmer working for that unit? Does anybody has any experience with it?
That’s a brand-new device that hasn’t actually been released in the US yet. It’s scheduled to start shipping around the end of December.
It’s certified as a ZHA Device, so it should be possible to get it to work with SmartThings, but it will need its own custom device type handler.
If you want to try one, start a new thread under devices/connected things and I’m sure people will be glad to help you create a device type handler for it.
I replaced out ceiling fan light with smart switches (dimmer / 3 speed fan) but I really need a remote for the wife she hates using the phone to do it. I got Minimote to control the dimmer at one point (holding the scene and tapping the light button) and just on and off the fan at one point(using the built in smartapp in ST)… but I can’t get it to do both. Seems like if you do one or the other, the other stops working. Has anyone else done this? Would love to set the top left to light / dimmer and the other 3 to speed control (low medium high)… or whatever. Thanks guys.
(UK, US) Nodon Octan Remote. Zwave battery-operated multi-button wallmount or table top button controller. Tap, hold and double tap on 4 buttons. ( also sends the hold release indication, which could be used with core.)
UK frequency version:
US Frequency version:
Nodon also has a 2" square “soft remote” meant as a handheld with 4 buttons. It comes in about a dozen different colors, including pink and blue.
Device Type Handler by @Richard_Woodward in the following thread:
(UK) Swiid Inter Cord Switch. Zwave. Requires splicing into the cord. Designed for control of table lamps.
Not available in the US.
Now that is pretty cool. Although it requires splicing a cable, it really gets to the heart of what many situations still need - turn the lamp on at the lamp itself rather than with motion or an app.
I have these fitted in 3 applications.
As has been said, they are z-wave and integrate nicely with ST.
So using the switch you can just turn them on and off as required or use rules to do the job for you.
Great little device.
I’m slowly getting my smart home up and working. Installed a SmartThings Hub, Replaced a couple switches and outlets with Zwave compatible ones and added a door and motion sensors. My problem is that my family isn’t nearly as excited by the technology as I am. They don’t want to fish their smartphone out of their pockets every time they want to turn a lamp on. I love the Swiid cord switch above, but it’s not available in the US yet. In the meantime I was thinking of making one of my smart switches do double duty; act as a current switch to control the overhead light and as a button for the lamps in the room. Reading this thread it looks like the Leviton VRCS4 would work for my needs…but the price is a bit steep. Are there other solutions that offer a switch to control the current and a button or two I can use for the lamps.
(US and U.K.) Xiaomi Mi Magic Cube. Very small, inexpensive zigbee device that works the same way as the mood cube, but comes pre-built and is very inexpensive. Some community members have it working fine, some say they can’t get it working which may mean a defective product. So far gearbest and bang good are carrying it. Some people report getting a pink one instead of a white one.
Ask any follow on questions in the following thread, those are the people actually using it:
There is also an advanced DTH which captures more of the information from the cube and allows it to be used in mood cube type applications and can distinguish the slide motion.
Again, ask any follow-on questions in that thread.