Would you buy a Nest thermostat again based on those facts that I posted above?
What I’m saying here is that there are better options for the same price point. This thread is about explaining the ecobee option for new buyers, not trying to convince existing Nest users to switch.
For someone who already bought the Nest, well it’s mostly too late. It’s a good thermostat, but does it worth the extra money vs zigbee/z-wave thermostats given its lack of good APIs?
Using SmartThings to schedule is not alien to me, as I have almost everything running through webcore. In all honesty I would prefer to use webcore for ALL automations and scheduling. The native apps rarely have the functionality I desire, and it’s easier for me to have everything running through one thing.
I don’t need all the extra features you listed, but many of them are available through NST Manager.
In the future I might buy another Nest. Larger user base, support is always a call away, and I already know how to use it.
Or I might buy an ecobee to change things up. Since they are so very similar, and the features (the ones I use) can be achieved on both I’m afraid it might have to come down to cosmetics. 
Did you have any DST issues with your Automations just recently?
I’m sorry but where I live, my family cannot wake up cold in the middle of the night when it’s - 20 degrees outside…
All I’m saying is that I’m glad I don’t rely on SmartThings for my main HVAC scheduling… The other ecobee benefits (good APIs, HomeIQ portal, etc) are icing on the cake.
I understand that for you the Amazon integration is not a strong point, but for others it also makes a difference…
Honestly you’ve got me on the defensive mostly because you called my Nest dumb. 
I’m outside Philly. Gets cold here too.
The screenshots of the ecobee look pretty cool though. All that data right there, ready to go.
The Home IQ portal is really a strong benefit of the ecobee. All your data available for download in excel spreadsheet if needed.
And, now something new is coming into the Ecobee Ecosystem (in beta):
Getting “an unexpected error occurred” when trying to add the new ecobee4 to SmartThings.
Anyone seen this before? Any ideas?
Hi @Glen_King,
I don’t believe that you’re a contributor to my code. If you want a reliable integration between ST and Ecobee, please contribute to My Ecobee device at my store:
If you’re indeed a contributor, please send your logs to services@maisonsecomatiq.com.
P.S. If you’re a contributor, I don’t have you as an active contributor, so you’d need to follow the update procedure I sent you in an email.
Actually, the code was not at all the issue. Thanks anyway… but the issue is resolved.
Ecobee is the best thermostat according to wired…
I told you so, Ecobee is the best thermostat, and you were wrong all along…What will you do with your Nest thermostats: paperweight??