# Echo Dot 2nd gen vs Echo Dot 3rd gen for in wall

**URL:** <https://community.smartthings.com/t/echo-dot-2nd-gen-vs-echo-dot-3rd-gen-for-in-wall/150630>\
**Category:** Devices & Integrations\
**Created:** [January 17, 2019, 3:04pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/echo-dot-2nd-gen-vs-echo-dot-3rd-gen-for-in-wall/150630 "2019-01-17T15:04:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![rontalley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e47774/32.png) [@rontalley](https://community.smartthings.com/u/rontalley)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2019, 2:11am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/echo-dot-2nd-gen-vs-echo-dot-3rd-gen-for-in-wall/150630/21 "2019-01-18T02:11:46Z")

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Maybe point me to a link of “in wall”… I know plenty of “wall mount” but never really seen much on “in wall”.

I will read what you post but this is my last post here.

Good luck.

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**Author:** ![tuffloud1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/59ef9b/32.png) [@tuffloud1](https://community.smartthings.com/u/tuffloud1)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2019, 2:25am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/echo-dot-2nd-gen-vs-echo-dot-3rd-gen-for-in-wall/150630/22 "2019-01-18T02:25:29Z")

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They are calling it “flush mount - in wall installation” meaning the speaker surface is flush with wall and the depth of the speaker below the face is in wall like pretty much all wall speaker installs.

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**Author:** ![JDRoberts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/jdroberts/32/56577_2.png) [@JDRoberts](https://community.smartthings.com/u/JDRoberts)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2019, 2:36am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/echo-dot-2nd-gen-vs-echo-dot-3rd-gen-for-in-wall/150630/23 "2019-01-18T02:36:14Z")

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> [@tuffloud1](#):
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> They are calling it “flush mount - in wall installation”.

Yeah, they are using it like a ceiling fan or ceiling fixture, where the device fits tight against the ceiling rather than inside it.

This is a flushmount fixture.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/original/3X/9/d/9d358e57f92084de746bac3bfb911dd9b29824f2.jpeg)

On the other hand, flush mount speakers Generally have the major part of the device inside the ceiling/wall, and just the flat part of the speaker is as flat as possible against the wall surface.

The white discs in this picture are Bose flushmount speakers

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/original/3X/5/3/53d960c4d4cd7bee44da139e6459cfc5409491b1.jpeg)

And this is what they look like before you install them:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/original/3X/a/3/a30a88f06d86140272750cb159ef45dc24b73a8a.jpeg)

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