# Dual Switch Solution **URL:** \ **Category:** Device Ideas\ **Created:** [April 28, 2015, 12:21pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/dual-switch-solution/15880 "2015-04-28T12:21:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![nl156503](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/35a633/32.png) [@nl156503](https://community.smartthings.com/u/nl156503)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 12:21pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/dual-switch-solution/15880/1 "2015-04-28T12:21:32Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/original/3X/5/c/5ce0ebec542edc1d764a86d11e027e57ae47bc2d.jpg) I need a solution for making the left 2 switches controlled via smartthings. I cannot find a 1 gauge box to support 2 switches. vertical is the outside porch light. Tops left is canned lights Bottom left is a ceiling fan Thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![greg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/greg/32/13756_2.png) [@greg](https://community.smartthings.com/u/greg)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 12:28pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/dual-switch-solution/15880/2 "2015-04-28T12:28:03Z")
you could wire the outside light always on and use smart bulbs and just have two switches for the cans and fan or install two decora switches and use double tap to control smart bulbs (outside or cans) or a micro switch (fan) ---
**Author:** ![JDRoberts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/jdroberts/32/56577_2.png) [@JDRoberts](https://community.smartthings.com/u/JDRoberts)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 2:06pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/dual-switch-solution/15880/3 "2015-04-28T14:06:54Z")
The Leviton vrcs2 is a two button scene controller that’s perfect for this except that, like most multi devices, it’s a bear to pair with SmartThings. But some people have done it. > [@\[OBSOLETE\] Leviton VRCS2](http://community.smartthings.com/t/leviton-vrcs2/1751/): > > Leviton makes a 2 button/2 relay switch that works differently than SmartThings expects. Each button associates as a separate Z-Wave switch (theres a remote control that is also associated, but It seems to be less useful). The switches respond to SmartThings commands as you would expect, but pressing the physical buttons does not send standard on-off commands. Instead it sends scene commands. I created a device type that interprets these scene commands as state changes so the buttons work like instant status updates. The device type is available here: And another similar topic. This may not be worth all the work it takes to get it right, but it worth knowing about: > [@Vizia rf+ VRCS2-MR 2-Button Controller](http://community.smartthings.com/t/vizia-rf-vrcs2-mr-2-button-controller/1305/): > > I just bought [this Z-Wave 2-Button Controller/Switch](http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ProductDetail.jsp?partnumber=VRCS2-MRX§ion=44147&minisite=10251 "this Z-Wave 2-Button Controller/Switch") and was able to successfully pair it with my SmartThings hub. However, this is about the extent of what I can do with it. It shows up in ST as a remote but I can’t do anything with it. How would I properly set this up so that I can control the two lights attached to it using the ST app as well as the physical buttons on the device? Of course you might not like the form factor, it’s different than what you have: [http://www.amazon.com/Leviton-VRCS2-MRZ-2-Button-Controller-Multi-Location/dp/B0032ZB9HI](http://www.amazon.com/Leviton-VRCS2-MRZ-2-Button-Controller-Multi-Location/dp/B0032ZB9HI) ---
**Author:** ![Seva](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5e9695/32.png) [@Seva](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Seva)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 3:16pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/dual-switch-solution/15880/4 "2015-04-28T15:16:10Z")
What about cheap Chinese stuff? Example: [http://www.aliexpress.com/item/HighEnd-Glass-Mobile-Wireless-remote-control-light-switch-Android-IOS-Gsm-Zigbee-4-Gang-Wifi-Remote/32218648839.html](http://www.aliexpress.com/item/HighEnd-Glass-Mobile-Wireless-remote-control-light-switch-Android-IOS-Gsm-Zigbee-4-Gang-Wifi-Remote/32218648839.html) ---
**Author:** ![JDRoberts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/jdroberts/32/56577_2.png) [@JDRoberts](https://community.smartthings.com/u/JDRoberts)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 3:20pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/dual-switch-solution/15880/5 "2015-04-28T15:20:21Z")
> [@Seva](#): > > What about cheap Chinese stuff? Example: [http://www.aliexpress.com/item/HighEnd-Glass-Mobile-Wireless-remote-control-light-switch-Android-IOS-Gsm-Zigbee-4-Gang-Wifi-Remote/32218648839.html](http://www.aliexpress.com/item/HighEnd-Glass-Mobile-Wireless-remote-control-light-switch-Android-IOS-Gsm-Zigbee-4-Gang-Wifi-Remote/32218648839.html) Some people go that way. I don’t get cheap electrical stuff, the risk of a house fire isn’t worth saving 20 bucks to me. The Leviton switch is also made in China, but it’s UL listed from a manufacturer subject to US tort law, which is my minimum standard. But different people have different priorities. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Seva](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5e9695/32.png) [@Seva](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Seva)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 4:00pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/dual-switch-solution/15880/7 "2015-04-28T16:00:26Z")
“Cheap stuff” wasn’t mean low quality, cheap means $55 not $250 :] ---
**Author:** ![rando](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/0ea827/32.png) [@rando](https://community.smartthings.com/u/rando)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 4:57pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/dual-switch-solution/15880/8 "2015-04-28T16:57:49Z")
This might work: [http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c\_id=122&cp\_id=12212&cs\_id=1221201&p\_id=11990&seq=1&format=2](http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=122&cp_id=12212&cs_id=1221201&p_id=11990&seq=1&format=2) ---
**Author:** ![NorCalLights](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/norcallights/32/31085_2.png) [@NorCalLights](https://community.smartthings.com/u/NorCalLights)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 5:13pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/dual-switch-solution/15880/9 "2015-04-28T17:13:06Z")
How much room do you have in that J-box? The monoprice dual-relay that @rando suggested might be a good option if you have room. You could do one of those, and one aeon microswitch. ---
**Author:** ![JDRoberts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/jdroberts/32/56577_2.png) [@JDRoberts](https://community.smartthings.com/u/JDRoberts)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2015, 5:24pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/dual-switch-solution/15880/10 "2015-04-28T17:24:41Z")
I suspect this is going to run into the same problem that other dual relay switches have. Smartthings needs a device handler that can recognize multiple controllers in one device. This comes up a lot with things like power strips where you’re supposed to be able to get the energy use for each plug, but smartthings may only see it as one reporter. People have been trying for over year to get the Enerwave dual relay to work specifically to control a fan and a light, but without success. Some community members have it working so that a single on command from smartthings turns on both, so the fan and light go on and off together, but it doesn’t sound like that’s what the original poster in this topic was looking for. The following has discussion of dual relays: > [@Possible dual fan/light switch adapter](http://community.smartthings.com/t/possible-dual-fan-light-switch-adapter/2403): > > Hi guys, I am looking for a solution for controlling my pull chain fan/light combo. I am not so concerned about the speed/brightness I will set those by chain but I don’t always want both on or both off but alternating. I know this has been brought up several times but most people are more worried about building a light adjusted fan adjusted shield/module. I think I have found a solution that may help my problem in this switch [http://www.amazon.com/Enerwave-ZWN-RSM2-Z-Wave-Switch-Control/dp/B00JWVNH4Y](http://www.amazon.com/Enerwave-ZWN-RSM2-Z-Wave-Switch-Control/dp/B00JWVNH4Y) The problem I have is = In my house I have 2 fans running in session on 1 switch. The fan/light combos are mounted to 15 ft high ceilings and they have chains to control light and fan speed. It has become a pain in the but, in the winter I want the light in the summer I want more of … @mattjfrank might know more. ---
**Author:** ![4caulders](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/4caulders/32/327_2.png) [@4caulders](https://community.smartthings.com/u/4caulders)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 3:20am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/dual-switch-solution/15880/11 "2015-04-29T03:20:15Z")
The monoprice dual realy works great with smartthings. You have to use the correct device type and smartapp. The device type and smartapp I use is for ZWN-RSM2 Enerwave Dual Load relay Its by @mattjfrank > **[mattjfrank/ZWN-RSM2-Enerwave-Dual-Load](https://github.com/mattjfrank/ZWN-RSM2-Enerwave-Dual-Load)** > > Contribute to ZWN-RSM2-Enerwave-Dual-Load development by creating an account on GitHub. ---
**Author:** ![JDRoberts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/jdroberts/32/56577_2.png) [@JDRoberts](https://community.smartthings.com/u/JDRoberts)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 3:23am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/dual-switch-solution/15880/12 "2015-04-29T03:23:00Z")
According to the topic in which that device type is referenced, it controls both of the relays together, not each relay independently. That is, if you have one wired to the fan, and one wired to the light, they will both turn on together, and both turn off together. That fits the use case for some people, but not for everyone. Or has this changed? Can you control the two devices independently, one from each button? ---
**Author:** ![4caulders](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/4caulders/32/327_2.png) [@4caulders](https://community.smartthings.com/u/4caulders)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 4:00am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/dual-switch-solution/15880/13 "2015-04-29T04:00:37Z")
@JDRoberts the smartapp gives you control over each individually. I am using it in a fan/light right now that was controled by a single switch. It is working great. I am going to get another one to put on the lights and fans on my porch that are set up with the dual switch just like in the op picture. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/original/3X/c/6/c689868d1f07bd45c45ad2c6ebcffc17e5a2a70f.png) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/original/3X/5/a/5a7a7012f8733ba9189269cf8c46a43c2fe6c938.png) ---
**Author:** ![JDRoberts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/jdroberts/32/56577_2.png) [@JDRoberts](https://community.smartthings.com/u/JDRoberts)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 4:13am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/dual-switch-solution/15880/14 "2015-04-29T04:13:57Z")
Awesome! Then dual relays, or at least the monoprice, could be another option for the original poster. ---
**Author:** ![jjhamb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71e660/32.png) [@jjhamb](https://community.smartthings.com/u/jjhamb)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 9:35pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/dual-switch-solution/15880/15 "2015-08-08T21:35:26Z")
I am using Vision ZL7432US Dual Relay insert and TKBHOME TZ04 for quite some time now. For a long time control of individual relays was from within the device itself but now with a binder app and virtual tile am able to control the relays independently. They can be accessed via other apps and IFTTT etc. Updating status still sucks. ---
**Author:** ![David\_Van](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/david_van/32/48728_2.png) [@David\_Van](https://community.smartthings.com/u/David_Van)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/dual-switch-solution/15880/16 "2018-02-15T14:53:23Z")
Since this topic is one of the first results for “fan and light switch” here is a modern solution to the original OP’s question. Lutron MA-LFQHW-WH Maestro Fan Control and Dimmer Kit > **[Lutron MA-LFQHW-WH Maestro Fan Control and Dimmer Kit, White - Wall Dimmer Switches - Amazon.com](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MOIDA8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)** > > Single pole fan/light. For use with indoor ceiling paddle fans only. Installs with almost all existing wiring. Top button adjusts lights and bottom button sets and recalls 7 quiet fan speeds (plus off ... ---
**Author:** ![JDRoberts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/jdroberts/32/56577_2.png) [@JDRoberts](https://community.smartthings.com/u/JDRoberts)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 3:17pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/dual-switch-solution/15880/17 "2018-02-15T15:17:37Z")
The thread was also three years old. There are current FAQs on fan switches which do include the Lutron device. 🕶 Note that in order to make that device work with SmartThings you will have to also use a harmony home hub, it’s not part of the official SmartThings/Lutron integration since it doesn’t work with the Lutron SmartBridge. Details in the FAQ ( this is a clickable link) > [@FAQ: 2020 Ceiling Fan and Dimmer light wall mount control compatible with SmartThings and Alexa?](https://community.smartthings.com/t/faq-ceiling-fan-and-dimmer-light-wall-mount-control-compatible-with-smartthings-and-alexa/98373): > > There is much said about light and fan controls, but I can’t find any specific brands that are listed. I find several light switches but not dimmers, and nothing listed as a fan control. Looked at the similar topic listed but it had no actual solution. ---
**Author:** ![David\_Van](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/david_van/32/48728_2.png) [@David\_Van](https://community.smartthings.com/u/David_Van)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 3:30pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/dual-switch-solution/15880/18 "2018-02-15T15:30:09Z")
Weird that never came up in my searches. Thanks for letting me know it is not compatible with the lutron bridge, that seems silly that it wont work with their own hw. I guess Ill cancel that order and wait for a solution to come out. I didnt see anything similar to the Maestro in the other threads. ---
**Author:** ![JDRoberts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/jdroberts/32/56577_2.png) [@JDRoberts](https://community.smartthings.com/u/JDRoberts)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 3:32pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/dual-switch-solution/15880/19 "2018-02-15T15:32:11Z")
> [@David\_Van](#): > > Weird that never came up in my searches. Thanks for letting me know it is not compatible with the lutron bridge, that seems silly that it wont work with their own hw. I guess Ill cancel that order and wait for a solution to come out. I didnt see anything similar to the Maestro in the other threads. The maestro fan device is a very old device, it predates the smartbridge and the Lutron Caseta line and works in a somewhat different manner. The maestro line is not intended for House-wide automation, just for adding a remote in a single room. But since there is harmony hub compatibility, you can get integration that way, it’s just pretty clunky. ---
**Author:** ![David\_Van](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/david_van/32/48728_2.png) [@David\_Van](https://community.smartthings.com/u/David_Van)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 3:35pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/dual-switch-solution/15880/20 "2018-02-15T15:35:03Z")
I’m sure this info is out there but I am struggling to find it. Is there a single switch that can turn the light on and off and control fan speed? Zwave would be preferred. I see the Hampton Bay controller but I dont like all the extra buttons, trying to find something that matches our paddle switches. ---
**Author:** ![JDRoberts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/jdroberts/32/56577_2.png) [@JDRoberts](https://community.smartthings.com/u/JDRoberts)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 3:36pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/dual-switch-solution/15880/21 "2018-02-15T15:36:53Z")
> [@David\_Van](#): > > I’m sure this info is out there but I am struggling to find it. Is there a single switch that can turn the light on and off and control fan speed? Zwave would be preferred. See the FAQ I already linked to. There’s nothing for Zwave In a single switch but there is a zigbee option. 🕶 > [@FAQ: 2020 Ceiling Fan and Dimmer light wall mount control compatible with SmartThings and Alexa?](https://community.smartthings.com/t/faq-ceiling-fan-and-dimmer-light-wall-mount-control-compatible-with-smartthings-and-alexa/98373): > > There is much said about light and fan controls, but I can’t find any specific brands that are listed. I find several light switches but not dimmers, and nothing listed as a fan control. Looked at the similar topic listed but it had no actual solution. [Next page](https://community.smartthings.com/t/dual-switch-solution/15880.md?page=2)