Some members of the community know what that object was. . Received the email telling them to update the DTH.
Now on the matter of ST cloud and reliability in comparison to other platforms. ST is my fourth entry in to HA. Started off with simple TCP connected lights. While extremely simple, also very limited and unreliable even over LAN or using the TCP remote.
On to Wink, okay wide range of integration with other systems, but if you think ST has cloud issues, you have obviously never had a Wink hub or link. Even when it did work there was a minimum of 3 second usually 10 second delay from trigger to action. It did not take long ( okay about 6 months) for me to get tired of opening the front door and getting all the way through the house into the kitchen before the front hall light came on for me to decide it was NOT for me. Wink app had ( has) integration with other systems, but the number of devices it actually supports itself was extremely limited. Took me 2 months working with Wink techs to even get Schlage Z-wave locks added to supported devices. Even then it was only to show lock.unlock status to my knowledge you still can not actually program the locks through Wink. Cloud connection loss was always an issue with my internet never their cloud . At least ST will openly ( even if delayed ) admit when they are having an issue.
( I am not even going to count the experiment into Wemo that I got just because they worked with Echo before ST. )
On to Securifi Almond + . Another system that looks great on paper . A nice system if you have limited wants ( I won’t say needs because 99.9% of us don’t “need” any of this ). Big advantage everything is run locally. Bad thing about that is no integration with other things ( okay limited Hue support) They have now added a rule machine to be able to automate more things, but it was primarily a remote control with a central control panel last year.
They just now added Echo support but after 6 months of Beta testing it can only be used to change modes from away to home vice-versa. Sorry unlocking the door should change mode from away to home, I don’t need to announce " Echo change mode to home" when I arrive. No actual device control through Echo. Other than again extremely limited device support there is a ( unpublished and often denied ) hard limit of 75 devices ( combination of all IP, ZW and Zigbee before hub starts overloading, over heating and constantly shutting down. I was at 40ish IP devices and 35ish ZW/ZB when I started having probl oems. Once I removed all ZW/ZB and only had the 40ish IP devices it was stable. Now that I am up to between 70-80 IP devices using it solely as router I am back to having it constantly reboot and/or drop WAN access forcing me to go in SSH and clear it out packets every couple weeks or month depending on how many times devices have disconnected /reconnected to it.
Okay on to ST 9 months ago with release of V2 hub. Yes I got in on the upgrade deal because somebody mentioned it in the Securifi forum. I had looked at ST before but the cost and limited number of sensors on ST site scared me away. This was by far the best or worst decision I ever made. Yes there are bugs, but most of the time things just work. Yes I have 1 Lowe’s Iris motion sensor that seems to constantly lose its connection. Yes not every bulb always shows its proper state. Yes when internet goes down nothing works. However 99+% of the time it works as it should. The ability to add devices from (almost ) any supplier has been a blessing and a curse. Do I wish I could add my Nest protect smoke alarms ? Of course I do. Do I wish I could ( more easily ) use my IP and CCTV cameras as triggers ? Definitely. I know I could do a lot more than I am if I just took the time to sit down and map everything out. It’s " easier" to just keep adding another new SmartLighting " rule" when I add new devices than it is to sit down for a day and actually redo everything to organize it.
According to API I am up to 132 devices, a 400% jump in the last 9 months since I got ST, and I have at least a 20 more sitting in boxes waiting to be installed. If TCP had issues with 12 light bulbs, Wink couldn’t handle 20 lights, locks and PIR, Almond+ got confused at 35 what would they do closing in on 150 ?
I don’t know of any other system that will let me grab any device from any manufacturer and within a couple hours or days have it integrated. Look at the Bloomsky, they announce a sky cam and within a couple days the forum has it integrated ( something Bloomsky said they had tried and failed to accomplish on their own ) so it can be used to detect light, moisture and temp to trigger anything else in your system. ( Yes I was one of the victims of SHM using “all moisture sensors” had it rain at 2 am the first night Bloomsky was up so was woken up to search around the house trying to find the leak. )
As far as cloud issues, I can tell every time Amazon had Echoes on sale without ever even looking at Amazon website. 3-5 days after the sale the failure rate of Alexa goes up about 500%. Okay if I am in charge of the Alexa cloud and I know they are going on sale and we sold 5000 of them ( pulling # out of my @SS) Wednesday and they will all be getting activated Fri, Sat, Sun I would sure as Hell make sure I was ready for the increased load. I would not wait until Monday or Tuesday and look at all the failures in the log and then decide we needed to up our capacity. That is not how they do it though. So if Amazon can’t fix their cloud to have 100% reliability how can we expect better out of ST ( I don’t care if ST was bought out by Samsung)
Okay getting off my milk crate , rant over.