# Can routines be used to replace old smart app “custom monitoring”

**URL:** <https://community.smartthings.com/t/can-routines-be-used-to-replace-old-smart-app-custom-monitoring/236775>\
**Category:** SmartApps & Automations\
**Created:** [December 26, 2021, 5:20pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/can-routines-be-used-to-replace-old-smart-app-custom-monitoring/236775 "2021-12-26T17:20:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![professordave](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/professordave/32/102521_2.png) [@professordave](https://community.smartthings.com/u/professordave)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 5:20pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/can-routines-be-used-to-replace-old-smart-app-custom-monitoring/236775/1 "2021-12-26T17:20:57Z")

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So basically I have a bunch of “custom monitoring rules”

Moving forward can I use routines?

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![philh30](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/41988e/32.png) [@philh30](https://community.smartthings.com/u/philh30)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 5:31pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/can-routines-be-used-to-replace-old-smart-app-custom-monitoring/236775/2 "2021-12-26T17:31:39Z")

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Could you share some examples of what you have the smartapp doing? Routines are limited in what they can do, so they may not be able to replicate the smartapp logic if it’s complex.

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**Author:** ![professordave](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/professordave/32/102521_2.png) [@professordave](https://community.smartthings.com/u/professordave)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 5:33pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/can-routines-be-used-to-replace-old-smart-app-custom-monitoring/236775/3 "2021-12-26T17:33:44Z")

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Mostly notifications after a time delay

Just curious if most of the functionalty is there.

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**Author:** ![philh30](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/41988e/32.png) [@philh30](https://community.smartthings.com/u/philh30)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 5:42pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/can-routines-be-used-to-replace-old-smart-app-custom-monitoring/236775/4 "2021-12-26T17:42:10Z")

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Something like below? I think the timer portion of ‘contact sensor open for X seconds’ forces it to cloud execution. Otherwise, seems to work fine.

 ![Screenshot_20211226-123852](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/original/3X/8/b/8b7d9cdeea16262f6d5700a01bfba3a6201217bd.png)

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**Author:** ![professordave](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/professordave/32/102521_2.png) [@professordave](https://community.smartthings.com/u/professordave)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 5:45pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/can-routines-be-used-to-replace-old-smart-app-custom-monitoring/236775/5 "2021-12-26T17:45:22Z")

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Thanks again!
