I found a way to to save contacts in the STHM Send Text Message Response feature on Android. I had an older version of the SmartThings app on my device so I uninstalled the latest version, and loaded the older version (in my case SmartThings_1.7.40-21) and that version saved the contacts I entered in the Response section of the STHM. And even after I updated back to the latest version, the contacts were still there. I haven’t tried to edit them in the latest version, but I’m sure if I did that would be deleted and nothing would be saved.
By far the biggest loss for me is the ability to see which smart apps apply to a device - at the device level . Combined with that the loss of the ability to see which automation or smart app triggers an action in history.
Flying blind on system that needs regular maintenance! I could forgive the constant troubleshooting previously because it was so easy to see what actually caused an issue.
You can still see this in the IDE when you select the device… but yes, it is far more complicated now than before where it was visible in the app!
You can still see this in the IDE when you select the device
This only works for Groovy smart apps (i.e. Smart Lighting, webcore, etc.). It doesn’t work for Automations in the new app, Rules API, endpoint apps, etc.
Both of you should read more carefully…
Combined with that the loss of the ability to see which automation or smart app triggers an action in history.
Some actions in history show which automation triggered the change but not smart apps from what I can see?
Seems to be limited to ST automations
Thank you JD, excellent thread which needs to be stickied
Item 26 is a massive loss
Small items
Smartthings app does not rotate to landscape on phone
Using Samsung DeX
On screen Smartthings app broadcast from phone has NO textual hyperlinks for anything !
This is basic usability and should be corrected easily and quickly, that’s a real no no, give the job to an intern, its really not that hard
an item to consider for #34 in the growing list…
if you have geolocation disabled in the app, you are unable to create Automations that contain location. It will prompt you to enable geolocation for the device. You could do this in the classic app with routines. This makes it difficult for users who have tablet devices that don’t need geolocation enabled.
#35
rooms are limited to 20
an item to consider for #34 in the growing list…
if you have geolocation disabled in the app, you are unable to create or edit Automations that contain location. It will prompt you to enable geolocation for the device. You could do this in the classic app with routines. This makes it difficult for users who have tablet devices that don’t need geolocation enabled.
Can you create the automations on your phone, assuming that does have Geo location enabled, and then they’ll show up OK on your tablet? Or the tablet won’t load them at all?
sorry, corrected that… you can’t create automations that use location from tablet with geolocation disabled.
i can create them on phone and then edit them from tablet as long as it does not involve changing geolocation in that automation. you can edit actions in the existing automation.
rooms are limited to 20
The workaround is to create the Room in the IDE, which is known as a Group. That’s what I’ve been doing:
Click on any group and look for this on the upper right side of the screen:
Just a thought…
This forum used to be about innovative new ideas on how to use home automation, how to realize cool projects with Smartthings.
Now it is all about how to fix and work around things that Smartthings broke or that will be discontinued.
There’ve been a couple of cool Work from Home project reports recently. @jody.albritton has a very cool one on Automations based on signing into zoom:
For this tutorial we will be taking a closer look at endpoint smartapps by automating a light based on our Zoom presence status. We want to create an automation that will react to our presence status and activate a light when we go “On Air”. Prerequisites: Samsung Developer Workspace Account Android Device Glitch.com Account Preparation Remix the glitch app at this url Overview The work of creating a SmartApp using Javascript has been greatly simplified with the following packages const SmartApp = require('@smartthings/smartapp'); const FileContextStore = require('@smartthings/file-context-store') The two packages that will be used for this tutorial are the SmartApp SDK and the FileContextStore. The SmartApp SDK provides the boilerplate for creating SmartApps on the platform an…
And a much lower tech option for a similar use case is the Meross RGBW table lamp, which I am really happy with. It has a press button on top of it, so you don’t run into any of the issues of someone turning off the current. And It has a manufacturer provided smartthings integration, so no custom code is needed. This is now my favorite choice for colored light notifications. The price is back up to $38 after the discount code is applied, but I think that’s still a good price to very easily solve the “on air“ notification issue.
Meross are well engineered wi-Fi devices with good safety certifications and a decent smartthings integration so you won’t need any custom code. They have models which can work with both HomeKit and smartthings, which are the ones I usually get. They start out with very good prices and then frequently run discount or coupon codes in both the US and the UK. Right now they’ve got some deals on some of their colored light products which bring them down to the lowest prices they’ve ever had. One of my favorites is a small tower table lamp. This has built-in LEDs, which give you night light level brightness, although once they burn out you have to give up on the whole unit. But they should be good for about 10 years if they’re typical. 400 lm, which is about a 40 W equivalent. …
Actually, as I think about it, you could combine these two and have Jody‘s project turn on the Meross light.
So there are still some good forward-looking “this is cool“ home automation projects being posted, but definitely the percentage is down.
Another broken thing: not all lights are recognized as lights, even though their color can be changed in the ST apps. Can tell by which lights have a bulb icon vs switch. The switch type lights cannot be used in the new Samsung UI 3.1 that allows the phone’s alarm to turn on lights.
Room/device order lost every time app is logged out of. Of course there’s no reason to log out usually but occasionally it just happens or Support tells folks to log out and reinstall …
Item no8
Fibaro RGBW controlers
The original app had 3rd party created DTHs created back in 2016/17, these integrations exposed ALL of the devices configurations and options, some of us went to a lot of trouble and cost installing and integrating lighting based on the reliability of the product AND control from Smartthings
The DTHs created can no longer receive updates to this version of the smartthings app, the creators as far as I am aware are no longer available, Fibaro are not interested in creating integrations which leaves users with little control of the RGBW controlers
I agree manufactures create device integrations and ST are not responsible but on this occasion ST are fully to blame for the loss of control and as such It would be reasonable to request ST to look at the DTH created by @codersaur and to update it to current standard so we can regain control of our previously reliable devices
codersaur/SmartThings 3
#Fibaro RGBW Controller (FGRGBWM-441) - Advanced DTH Version: 0.03 (2016-11-14) Source: https://github.com/codersaur/SmartThings/tree/master/devices/fibaro-rgbw-controller Woops! It appears I forgot to create a thread for this, so here it is: An advanced device handler for the Fibaro RGBW Controller, with support for changing all parameters and use of channels as inputs. Key features in v0.03: Z-Wave parameters can be configured using the SmartThings GUI. Device associations can be configured using the SmartThings GUI. Support for using the channels in a mixture of IN/OUT modes (i.e. support for analog input sensors)! No more glitches (as sending commands and receiving reports is done properly!) “Energy Meter”, “Power Meter”, and “Polling” capabilities fully implemented. Lev…
Fibaro is a company I wouldn’t support. They don’t care about providing software support, only hardware.
Me too i have already started removing their devices from my ecosystem