Before I purchase Sharptools…

Can anyone tell me if this sort of automation is achievable within Sharptools? Because webcore is going away I’m going to have to look elsewhere, more annoying that I now need to pay for something when webcore is free. Note this is not a dig at Sharptools charging a fee, more that webcore is going away and it was free. :frowning:

I think it might work, but you can use the Rules without a subscription to try it out. You don’t get variables or HTTP requests without a subscription. I’ve been using SharpTools Rules for years without a subscription, although I just got one because of the end of Groovy.


Yeah I think I need the variables for this action/piston

I think it will work w/o variables. You should be able to try the free version.

The only thing thats weird trigger-wise is the “changed in the last two minutes”, but I think it will work in Sharptools using the below. @joshua_lyon @jamesguitar3

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From a trigger perspective, @Bry’s screenshot would trigger when either of his two trigger events occur and the ‘state stays’ one would mean the motion had stayed active for 2 minutes (it could also be used in an IF Condition, but again it would be something that was currently active and had been for at least the last 2 minutes rather than something that had been active any time in the last X minutes).

I don’t know if there’s a direct analog in SharpTools for ‘changed within X minutes’ without using variables, but our community has surprised me with tricks I didn’t expect before! :rofl:

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I missed the back door predicate in that example . . .

Give it a shot in SharpTools. There is also a great community there with a lot of people helping with complex rules.


Thank you for the offer. I’ll definitely take you up on that. My only concern is these contact devices I have set up somehow no longer work ( within Alexa ) when ST moves everything come Sep 30th

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