# APP Android version 1.7.85.25 issues **URL:** \ **Category:** Android\ **Created:** [May 25, 2022, 7:50pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/app-android-version-1-7-85-25-issues/242991 "2022-05-25T19:50:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mariano\_Colmenarejo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/mariano_colmenarejo/32/220132_2.png) [@Mariano\_Colmenarejo](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Mariano_Colmenarejo)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 7:50pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/app-android-version-1-7-85-25-issues/242991/1 "2022-05-25T19:50:18Z")
@nayelyz, I have installed the new Android version 1.7.85.25 and when entering a negative values in an automation condition, which admits negative values, the app crashes and goes back Someone else happens? video: > **[New video by Mariano Mariano](https://photos.app.goo.gl/Pd561eaPsdsNa5mQ6)** ---
**Author:** ![nayelyz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/59ef9b/32.png) [@nayelyz](https://community.smartthings.com/u/nayelyz)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 7:53pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/app-android-version-1-7-85-25-issues/242991/2 "2022-05-25T19:53:12Z")
Hi! šŸ˜ƒ Are you using a custom capability? Can you provide the ID, please? ---
**Author:** ![Mariano\_Colmenarejo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/mariano_colmenarejo/32/220132_2.png) [@Mariano\_Colmenarejo](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Mariano_Colmenarejo)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 7:58pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/app-android-version-1-7-85-25-issues/242991/3 "2022-05-25T19:58:10Z")
> [@nayelyz](#): > > Are you using a custom capability? Can you provide the ID, please? Nothing capability with negative values works and it worked perfectly. I realized when creating a new one and when giving the error I thought that I had created it wrong and after a lot of changing, I realized that none of the ones that worked a long time ago did not work `legendabsolute60149.levelSteps` ---
**Author:** ![nayelyz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/59ef9b/32.png) [@nayelyz](https://community.smartthings.com/u/nayelyz)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 8:06pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/app-android-version-1-7-85-25-issues/242991/4 "2022-05-25T20:06:53Z")
Hi, @SamsungZell. Have you heard of issues setting negative values in the ST app? This is in the part of `Routines > Custom > IF` ---
**Author:** ![Mariano\_Colmenarejo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/mariano_colmenarejo/32/220132_2.png) [@Mariano\_Colmenarejo](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Mariano_Colmenarejo)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 8:39pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/app-android-version-1-7-85-25-issues/242991/5 "2022-05-25T20:39:09Z")
@nayelyz, I tried in other phone with version 1.7.84.21 and I can write negative values ---
**Author:** ![nayelyz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/59ef9b/32.png) [@nayelyz](https://community.smartthings.com/u/nayelyz)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 10:46pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/app-android-version-1-7-85-25-issues/242991/6 "2022-05-25T22:46:50Z")
> [@Mariano\_Colmenarejo](#): > > I tried in other phone with version 1.7.84.21 and I can write negative values I still donā€™t get the update, so I have that version. Either way, I already saved the evidence in case it gets lost in the new one. ---
**Author:** ![DaWeav](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/daweav/32/109130_2.png) [@DaWeav](https://community.smartthings.com/u/DaWeav)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 6:16am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/app-android-version-1-7-85-25-issues/242991/7 "2022-05-26T06:16:06Z")
I have another minor issue. This new Android version of the SmartThings app added audible ā€˜tickā€™ sounds when I tap the deviceā€™s control to turn the device On/Off in the app, and I donā€™t see anywhere in the app to disable these ā€˜tickā€™ sounds as the Tap View, Tap Sound toggle is Off. There should be a setting to disable these audible ā€˜tickā€™ sounds because I donā€™t want to annoy others around me when Iā€™m using the SmartThings app to control my smart home devices. ---
**Author:** ![fido](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/fido/32/163321_2.png) [@fido](https://community.smartthings.com/u/fido)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 9:21am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/app-android-version-1-7-85-25-issues/242991/8 "2022-05-26T09:21:57Z")
This couldnt be put on an elongated tile ? Or give the user the option of a tile size !!! I mean that is alot of screen real estate just for a device, it no longer fits where i want it on the (favorites) should be Home pageā€¦ā€˜sighā€™ ![Screenshot_20220526-101641_SmartThings](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/original/3X/3/f/3f38b1ab47af77c05605732050f3e96fe7b222c7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Mariano\_Colmenarejo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/mariano_colmenarejo/32/220132_2.png) [@Mariano\_Colmenarejo](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Mariano_Colmenarejo)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 9:09pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/app-android-version-1-7-85-25-issues/242991/9 "2022-05-26T21:09:40Z")
Hi @nayelyz, I have observed another problem in the new version of the android app. The buttons that previously had many more actions on each button than those that the device supported now with the new version of the app only the button and the status field appear and no action for any button. Previous app version: ![IMG-20220526-WA0003](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/original/3X/e/4/e481511c1a77b597261a5bba9e8909205d2d5e3c.jpeg) New app version: ![Screenshot_20220526-230726](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/original/3X/f/d/fd0e5420eb269b7703dd36ef908b08f7d0e7a611.png) ---
**Author:** ![nayelyz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/59ef9b/32.png) [@nayelyz](https://community.smartthings.com/u/nayelyz)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 10:03pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/app-android-version-1-7-85-25-issues/242991/10 "2022-05-26T22:03:11Z")
> [@Mariano\_Colmenarejo](#): > > I have installed the new Android version 1.7.85.25 and when entering a negative values in an automation condition, which admits negative values, the app crashes and goes back Ok, so, the team is aware of this issue and they have been able to reproduce it so, they will report it accordingly. > [@DaWeav](#): > > This new Android version of the SmartThings app added audible ā€˜tickā€™ sounds when I tap the deviceā€™s control to turn the device On/Off in the app Ok, the team confirmed thereā€™s a sound for those actions but the option of `Tap View, Tap Sound` is not related to it. That setting is to enable the tap view and sound _features_ which is where you can tap your phone up against your TV or soundbar and it will start casting the video/audio to the device. Does your mobile phone have active the ā€œtouch soundā€ option? I just checked and when I deactivate mine, I can no longer hear it in the ST app. ![478edaf2-e05a-46d5-9816-032922fbdfc2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/original/3X/7/0/70a12c18114880a8916b7381a28fa2cfdd334f2e.jpeg) > [@fido](#): > > This couldnt be put on an elongated tile ? Or give the user the option of a tile size This is a feature request, I will create a report for that but remember it can take a while to be reviewed and implemented (if itā€™s accepted). Itā€™ll depend on the teamā€™s workload. > [@Mariano\_Colmenarejo](#): > > The buttons that previously had many more actions on each button than those that the device supported now with the new version of the app only the button and the status field appear and no action for any button. Ok, weā€™ll try to replicate this one. ---
**Author:** ![DaWeav](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/daweav/32/109130_2.png) [@DaWeav](https://community.smartthings.com/u/DaWeav)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 11:21pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/app-android-version-1-7-85-25-issues/242991/11 "2022-05-26T23:21:31Z")
In Android settings on my S8+ (v9) Touch Sounds and on my Tab S6 (v12) Touch Interactions is toggled to Off/Disabled, but I hear the ā€˜Tickā€™ sounds. I toggled the setting On/Off, but still hear the ā€˜Tickā€™ sounds in this new SmartThings app on both devices. I rebooted both devices and I still hear the ā€˜Tickā€™ sounds. On my Tab A7 Lite (v11) however, the Touch Interactions Android setting does work to Enable/Disable the ā€˜Tickā€™ sounds in this new SmartThings app. ---
**Author:** ![orangebucket](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/orangebucket/32/81590_2.png) [@orangebucket](https://community.smartthings.com/u/orangebucket)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 3:17am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/app-android-version-1-7-85-25-issues/242991/12 "2022-05-27T03:17:29Z")
> [@Mariano\_Colmenarejo](#): > > The buttons that previously had many more actions on each button than those that the device supported now with the new version of the app only the button and the status field appear and no action for any button. Was this happening on all buttons previously? I only have one type of device displaying buttons at the moment and it is working correctly. ---
**Author:** ![orangebucket](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/orangebucket/32/81590_2.png) [@orangebucket](https://community.smartthings.com/u/orangebucket)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 7:06am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/app-android-version-1-7-85-25-issues/242991/13 "2022-05-27T07:06:31Z")
> [@DaWeav](#): > > In Android settings on my S8+ (v9) Touch Sounds and on my Tab S6 (v12) Touch Interactions is toggled to Off/Disabled, but I hear the ā€˜Tickā€™ sounds. I toggled the setting On/Off, but still hear the ā€˜Tickā€™ sounds in this new SmartThings app on both devices. I rebooted both devices and I still hear the ā€˜Tickā€™ sounds. ā€˜Touch Interactionsā€™ does not affect this unacceptable sound on my Samsung phone either (Android 11/OneUI 3.1). However, it when in ā€˜Do Not Disturbā€™ mode it is affected by the ā€˜Touch Soundsā€™ exemption. Update: ā€˜Touch Soundsā€™ is not respected on a Nokia. ---
**Author:** ![Mariano\_Colmenarejo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/mariano_colmenarejo/32/220132_2.png) [@Mariano\_Colmenarejo](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Mariano_Colmenarejo)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 7:53am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/app-android-version-1-7-85-25-issues/242991/14 "2022-05-27T07:53:19Z")
> [@orangebucket](#): > > Was this happening on all buttons previously? I only have one type of device displaying buttons at the moment and it is working correctly. I only have the fibaro key fob with 6 buttons, but it happened to other users in other models as well. I donā€™t know now in other models if the same thing happens or it has been fixed ---
**Author:** ![mooch91](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@mooch91](https://community.smartthings.com/u/mooch91)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 10:29am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/app-android-version-1-7-85-25-issues/242991/15 "2022-05-27T10:29:28Z")
> [@DaWeav](#): > > I have another minor issue. This new Android version of the SmartThings app added audible ā€˜tickā€™ sounds when I tap the deviceā€™s control to turn the device On/Off in the app, and I donā€™t see anywhere in the app to disable these ā€˜tickā€™ sounds as the Tap View, Tap Sound toggle is Off. There should be a setting to disable these audible ā€˜tickā€™ sounds because I donā€™t want to annoy others around me when Iā€™m using the SmartThings app to control my smart home devices. I am envious that the click noise for the buttons is a significant issue for the Android folks. Us iOS folks wait, and wait, and wait, sometimes up to 30 seconds, for the app to warm up to allow device control. Not to mention the constant re-ordering of rooms, missing history, and general quirky behavior. ---
**Author:** ![orangebucket](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/orangebucket/32/81590_2.png) [@orangebucket](https://community.smartthings.com/u/orangebucket)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 10:57am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/app-android-version-1-7-85-25-issues/242991/16 "2022-05-27T10:57:39Z")
> [@mooch91](#): > > Us iOS folks wait, and wait, and wait, sometimes up to 30 seconds, for the app to warm up to allow device control. That isnā€™t just an iOS thing, it happens on Android too and it isnā€™t just sometimes 30 seconds, it is more often than not. It only really irritates me because there isnā€™t any useful feedback on its progress so you have to work out when it is ready. > [@mooch91](#): > > Not to mention the constant re-ordering of rooms, missing history, and general quirky behavior. I donā€™t get the re-ordering of rooms (though having a Samsung probably helps), but missing history has been a thing for years, that and the fact that even if the history is there you donā€™t get to read it because the page refreshes. If the iOS version gets the big change that the Android app just did you are going to love it. It is so big that they announced it in the Play Store. Yes, you can now change the order your Locations are displayed. OK, in the process they removed all the information being displayed in the Location tiles, and there isnā€™t the slightest hint in the UI that the new tiles can be moved, but, never mind, the locations can be sorted. _For those that are unsure, yes that is irony._ They seemed pretty excited about an improvement in the handling of Location invitations too, and there was something about QR codes. There are very few interactions that can be improved by the use of QR codes, and plenty that can be improved by not using them. ---
**Author:** ![mooch91](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@mooch91](https://community.smartthings.com/u/mooch91)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 12:33pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/app-android-version-1-7-85-25-issues/242991/17 "2022-05-27T12:33:32Z")
> [@orangebucket](#): > > > [@mooch91](#): > > > > Us iOS folks wait, and wait, and wait, sometimes up to 30 seconds, for the app to warm up to allow device control. > > That isnā€™t just an iOS thing, it happens on Android too and it isnā€™t just sometimes 30 seconds, it is more often than not. It only really irritates me because there isnā€™t any useful feedback on its progress so you have to work out when it is ready. > > > [@mooch91](#): > > > > Not to mention the constant re-ordering of rooms, missing history, and general quirky behavior. > > I donā€™t get the re-ordering of rooms (though having a Samsung probably helps), but missing history has been a thing for years, that and the fact that even if the history is there you donā€™t get to read it because the page refreshes. > > If the iOS version gets the big change that the Android app just did you are going to love it. It is so big that they announced it in the Play Store. Yes, you can now change the order your Locations are displayed. OK, in the process they removed all the information being displayed in the Location tiles, and there isnā€™t the slightest hint in the UI that the new tiles can be moved, but, never mind, the locations can be sorted. > > _For those that are unsure, yes that is irony._ > > They seemed pretty excited about an improvement in the handling of Location invitations too, and there was something about QR codes. There are very few interactions that can be improved by the use of QR codes, and plenty that can be improved by not using them. I canā€™t understand why they refuse to acknowledge the performance issues in the app, yet continue to add nonsense features as if they are meaningful? My use case is so simpleā€¦ I want to quickly open the app to turn a light, or series of lights, on. I want to be able to quickly arm and disarm STHM. I want to be able to quickly get device data so I can check on things while Iā€™m away. I need to do the occasional programming of routines, but this is infrequent once set. One needs an app that doesnā€™t take forever to update information in order to perform these basic tasks. ---
**Author:** ![johnconstantelo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/johnconstantelo/32/111869_2.png) [@johnconstantelo](https://community.smartthings.com/u/johnconstantelo)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 12:47pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/app-android-version-1-7-85-25-issues/242991/18 "2022-05-27T12:47:58Z")
Dang it @nayelyz and @SamsungZell ! This has stopped becoming frustrating and has started to become infuriatingā€¦ Another app update failing to fix the constant and ongoing bug with the mobile app not allowing temperature set points to be entered in Fahrenheit even though my Location temp scale is set correctly. I am NOT using any custom Edge driver or DTH, just the SmartThings default ā€œZigbee Thermostatā€ DTH. Iā€™m really getting tired of the runaround provided by support, and the noncommittal by ST. Right now I have to use a Groovy SmartApp to adjust temperature setpoints because itā€™s impossible to do that in Scenes or Routines. If this is not fixed in the mobile app soon, and Groovy gets retired, my thermostats are pretty much useless in ST for performing any automations. Requests : #1360278 (latest) #1334103 (March) #1321798 (February) #1305616 (January) #1295409 (December) #1283760 (November), ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/original/3X/6/9/697c10f54ee8afda9733d36cfe2a579d1db5a2b4.png) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/original/3X/d/3/d32b62baa548b4bd4ae430cfc3c189e6258e97e0.png) ---
**Author:** ![DaWeav](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/daweav/32/109130_2.png) [@DaWeav](https://community.smartthings.com/u/DaWeav)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 1:56pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/app-android-version-1-7-85-25-issues/242991/19 "2022-05-27T13:56:36Z")
> [@mooch91](#): > > Us iOS folks wait, and wait, and wait, sometimes up to 30 seconds, for the app to warm up to allow device control. I have iOS as well and Iā€™ll say that the SmartThings app experience on Android is better since Iā€™d rather use my Tab S6 when configuring SmartThings instead of my iPad. However, with this latest Android update, itā€™s starting to catch up with the startup delay that iOS has because this version is the first time Iā€™ve seen the twirling ā€˜Getting everything readyā€™ message at app startup. > [@mooch91](#): > > Not to mention the constant re-ordering of rooms Yep, I gave up re-ordering things on iOS. Itā€™s too bad that they canā€™t use the same ā€˜syncā€™ feature that the Favorites dashboard has across devices, but that would probably add more time to the app startup delay. ---
**Author:** ![Mariano\_Colmenarejo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/mariano_colmenarejo/32/220132_2.png) [@Mariano\_Colmenarejo](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Mariano_Colmenarejo)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 2:25pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/app-android-version-1-7-85-25-issues/242991/20 "2022-05-27T14:25:49Z")
> [@nayelyz](#): > > Ok, weā€™ll try to replicate this one. Without doing anything it seems that it has returned to work as before, with more actions per button than it really has ![Screenshot_20220527-153852](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/original/3X/0/8/082c482c3e17dbdcd704cb5d47f5e1b3e2469c5e.png) [Next page](https://community.smartthings.com/t/app-android-version-1-7-85-25-issues/242991.md?page=2)