# Anyone know of a discreet switch **URL:** \ **Category:** Devices & Integrations\ **Created:** [March 26, 2017, 2:18am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-discreet-switch/82669 "2017-03-26T02:18:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![blhoward2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e4f/32.png) [@blhoward2](https://community.smartthings.com/u/blhoward2)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 2:19am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-discreet-switch/82669/1 "2017-03-26T02:19:00Z")
My wife is making me install sconce lamps next to our headboard, but the ones she bought have a switch on them and she won’t let me install real switches nearby (she doesn’t want to see them). I thought about hiding a micro switch in the box and leaving the switch on the lamp on, but I need a good way to trigger the microswitch (through the hub). Is anyone aware of a discreet (small) battery powered switch that I could hide on the back of the headboard to act as the trigger? I was hoping to hack the built-in switch and attach it to the micro switch, but no dice. The lamps swing out on an arm and the switch wiring is buried in the soldered arm piece. ---
**Author:** ![RLDreams](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/rldreams/32/18109_2.png) [@RLDreams](https://community.smartthings.com/u/RLDreams)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 2:21am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-discreet-switch/82669/2 "2017-03-26T02:21:00Z")
Any button controller would work. Could use Hue bulbs with a Hue Dimmer. ---
**Author:** ![blhoward2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e4f/32.png) [@blhoward2](https://community.smartthings.com/u/blhoward2)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 2:22am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-discreet-switch/82669/3 "2017-03-26T02:22:49Z")
All the ones I know of are about the size of a real light switch or a remote (like the minimote). Do you know of a smaller button controller? That’s all I’m really looking for… Ideally something small like this, but without requiring an IFTTT routine to work: [https://www.amazon.com/Flic-Wireless-Smart-Button-White/dp/B00ZAEOC5K](https://www.amazon.com/Flic-Wireless-Smart-Button-White/dp/B00ZAEOC5K) ---
**Author:** ![RLDreams](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/rldreams/32/18109_2.png) [@RLDreams](https://community.smartthings.com/u/RLDreams)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 2:27am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-discreet-switch/82669/4 "2017-03-26T02:27:51Z")
Lowes has one that is only a single button, but it has a LOT of mixed reviews on reliability A contact sensor hidden away with any small switch wired to the contacts ? Just tossing out ideas ---
**Author:** ![destructure00](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/destructure00/32/87397_2.png) [@destructure00](https://community.smartthings.com/u/destructure00)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 2:30am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-discreet-switch/82669/5 "2017-03-26T02:30:54Z")
> [@RLDreams](#): > > Lowes has one that is only a single button, but it has a LOT of mixed reviews on reliability I was just going to post about this. I have 4 of these Iris buttons and no issues with any of them yet. They report temp as well. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/original/3X/f/c/fce7c941f5f00950a24a4025d6ccfa4884545a89.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![SBDOBRESCU](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/sbdobrescu/32/30067_2.png) [@SBDOBRESCU](https://community.smartthings.com/u/SBDOBRESCU)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 2:38am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-discreet-switch/82669/6 "2017-03-26T02:38:04Z")
> [@destructure00](#): > > have 4 of these Iris buttons and no issues with any of them yet. I am at the other end of the spectrum that @RLDreams was talking about. Had two of them and both with lots of problems. Both ended up in the trash. ---
**Author:** ![destructure00](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/destructure00/32/87397_2.png) [@destructure00](https://community.smartthings.com/u/destructure00)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 2:39am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-discreet-switch/82669/7 "2017-03-26T02:39:34Z")
What kind of issues did you have? ---
**Author:** ![SBDOBRESCU](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/sbdobrescu/32/30067_2.png) [@SBDOBRESCU](https://community.smartthings.com/u/SBDOBRESCU)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 2:42am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-discreet-switch/82669/8 "2017-03-26T02:42:32Z")
> [@destructure00](#): > > issues did you hav Getting stuck, every other day. Difficulty to take the battery out to unstuck it. Missing pushes… ---
**Author:** ![TN\_Oldman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/tn_oldman/32/31062_2.png) [@TN\_Oldman](https://community.smartthings.com/u/TN_Oldman)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 2:58am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-discreet-switch/82669/9 "2017-03-26T02:58:51Z")
I had issues with mine until a bent the battery contacts and shimmed the battery up. ---
**Author:** ![TN\_Oldman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/tn_oldman/32/31062_2.png) [@TN\_Oldman](https://community.smartthings.com/u/TN_Oldman)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 3:00am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-discreet-switch/82669/10 "2017-03-26T03:00:27Z")
For an idea could you make on of those boxes with a smarthings multi sensor in it. One side up is on. Other up is off? Or something like that? ---
**Author:** ![JDRoberts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/jdroberts/32/56577_2.png) [@JDRoberts](https://community.smartthings.com/u/JDRoberts)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 3:03am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-discreet-switch/82669/11 "2017-03-26T03:03:34Z")
There are quite a few options depending on your own aesthetics. The buttons and remotes FAQ includes both handheld and wallmount devices, and should give you some ideas. 🕶 > [@FAQ: Full list of buttons and remotes confirmed to work with SmartThings \[Not all devices listed work with the 2020 Platform\]](https://community.smartthings.com/t/faq-full-list-of-buttons-and-remotes-supported-by-smartthings-at-this-time/9729): > > I’d like to know which buttons and remotes are currently supported or might be supported in the future. Ideally, I’d like to find something similar to the following: [http://www.evolvecontrols.com/devices/control-devices/glass-series](http://www.evolvecontrols.com/devices/control-devices/glass-series) Though alternatively just a simple nice-looking button which actually works unlike this Aeon according to Amazon reviews: [http://www.amazon.com/Touch-Panel-Button-Switch-AL-001/dp/B00GL6B4GG/ref=sr\_1\_3?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1421468320&sr=1-3&keywords=aeon+button](http://www.amazon.com/Touch-Panel-Button-Switch-AL-001/dp/B00GL6B4GG/ref=sr_1_3?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1421468320&sr=1-3&keywords=aeon+button) There is an Aeon Key Fob as well, but it doesn’t seem to be very durable or stylish: What else is available? ---
**Author:** ![TN\_Oldman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/tn_oldman/32/31062_2.png) [@TN\_Oldman](https://community.smartthings.com/u/TN_Oldman)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 3:06am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-discreet-switch/82669/12 "2017-03-26T03:06:38Z")
One of these is what I was talking about. I haven’t made one yet. Put pictures she likes in the photo cube. So it’s a win - win. > [@Mood Cube on the cheap](https://community.smartthings.com/t/mood-cube-on-the-cheap/58356): > > I really wanted to try the Mood Cube app but didn’t want to build anything to complicated but I also didn’t want it to be a cardboard box. I found this photo cube at Michael’s for under seven dollars. It comes apart easily… I grabbed a piece of card stock and cut and folded it to match the clear plastic pieces and a motion sensor. just attach a motion sensor (I used a multi-sensor) inside the cardboard box… and reassemble with card stock to hide the inner box… [image] At this point it’s just a white box, but it’s pretty easy to imagine adding pictures or photos to differentiate each side.[image] Enjoy! I assume you can set it up for lights on and off. Maybe also trigger your bedtime routine too? ---
**Author:** ![Ron](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/ron/32/80532_2.png) [@Ron](https://community.smartthings.com/u/Ron)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 10:04am UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-discreet-switch/82669/13 "2017-03-26T10:04:45Z")
I have several Flic Buttons and use them for my bedroom lamps without IFTTT but it took a lot of work. I have installed HASS on a Raspberry Pi3 along with the Flic device drivers so I don’t need a mobile phone and so I don’t need IFTTT. But that’s a lot of cost and effort to make it all work. I also like the Fibaro Buttons, not as small as my flics but quite stylish. I have two of them now. They work great but are a little pricy. > **[Fibaro Button Z-Wave Plus Scene Controller FGPB-101](https://www.thesmartesthouse.com/collections/scene-controllers/products/fibaro-button-z-wave-plus-scene-controller-fgpb-101)** > > Click and Control     PRODUCT HIGHLIGHTS The simplest Z-Wave scene controller to control individual devices or smart home scenarios 6 different actions to assig ---
**Author:** ![danielbheyl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cc9497/32.png) [@danielbheyl](https://community.smartthings.com/u/danielbheyl)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 12:23pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-discreet-switch/82669/14 "2017-03-26T12:23:50Z")
Aeon Mini Mote would work… button 1 for direct control of the lamp… buttons 2-4 for any routine you would like to assign… It’s a great wireless solution to velcro to the back of the headboard. [http://a.co/1kV3cUp](http://a.co/1kV3cUp) We have ours hooked up to the lamp, white noise machine, good morning, and goodnight routines… Come to think of it though, ever since we put our echo-dot on the bedside table, we use voice control for the lamp just as often. ---
**Author:** ![blhoward2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e4f/32.png) [@blhoward2](https://community.smartthings.com/u/blhoward2)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 12:48pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-discreet-switch/82669/15 "2017-03-26T12:48:27Z")
Thanks all for the suggestions so far. My wife is very anti-clutter so the mood cube won’t work. And we have small children, so the minimote would disappear. (I actually have one right now that I use to go to nighttime mode and I can’t find it 30% of the time.) The Fibaro button might work. Does anyone have an idea of the dimensions of it? I can’t tell how big it is from the photos. ---
**Author:** ![TN\_Oldman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/tn_oldman/32/31062_2.png) [@TN\_Oldman](https://community.smartthings.com/u/TN_Oldman)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 1:30pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-discreet-switch/82669/16 "2017-03-26T13:30:06Z")
Is there a way to mount a motion sensor like the Lowe’s Iris. Say on back of headboard, hidden on nightstand? Someplace where you would have to intentionally trigger it with motion? Then you could wave you hand over it as a trigger. Maybe use a smart app to control say if light on then off. If off then on? Do you have android phone? You could use tasker, sharptools to trigger events from your phone. I have my phone set up so when it’s placed on the charger it turns off the bedroom lights. That’s typically the last thing I do every night is place in on a wireless charger. When I pick it up in the morning it runs Good-morning routine. ---
**Author:** ![destructure00](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/destructure00/32/87397_2.png) [@destructure00](https://community.smartthings.com/u/destructure00)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 1:50pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-discreet-switch/82669/17 "2017-03-26T13:50:14Z")
> [@TN\_Oldman](#): > > Do you have android phone? You could use tasker, sharptools to trigger events from your phone. I have my phone set up so when it’s placed on the charger it turns off the bedroom lights. That’s typically the last thing I do every night is place in on a wireless charger. When I pick it up in the morning it runs Good-morning routine. How did you make this work? I’ve tried Charging Wirelessly profiles but the problem I’ve run into is that when the phone reaches full charge in the middle of the night it actually stops charging for a few minutes which deactivates the profile. ---
**Author:** ![DaveR12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@DaveR12](https://community.smartthings.com/u/DaveR12)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 2:32pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-discreet-switch/82669/18 "2017-03-26T14:32:54Z")
If you’re going to use an Android phone and tasker, could you trigger with an NFC tag on the night stand instead of a charging profile? What about multiple NFC tags - move the phone from one spot to another to operate lights. Just throwing another idea out there. ---
**Author:** ![JDRoberts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/jdroberts/32/56577_2.png) [@JDRoberts](https://community.smartthings.com/u/JDRoberts)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 2:36pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-discreet-switch/82669/19 "2017-03-26T14:36:33Z")
So far all of the devices mentioned in this thread, including the mood cube, are also included in the buttons and remotes FAQ. It really is worth taking a look at it as there are also a number of other devices there that might work. (The following is a clickable link) > [@FAQ: Full list of buttons and remotes confirmed to work with SmartThings \[Not all devices listed work with the 2020 Platform\]](https://community.smartthings.com/t/faq-full-list-of-buttons-and-remotes-supported-by-smartthings-at-this-time/9729): > > I’d like to know which buttons and remotes are currently supported or might be supported in the future. Ideally, I’d like to find something similar to the following: [http://www.evolvecontrols.com/devices/control-devices/glass-series](http://www.evolvecontrols.com/devices/control-devices/glass-series) Though alternatively just a simple nice-looking button which actually works unlike this Aeon according to Amazon reviews: [http://www.amazon.com/Touch-Panel-Button-Switch-AL-001/dp/B00GL6B4GG/ref=sr\_1\_3?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1421468320&sr=1-3&keywords=aeon+button](http://www.amazon.com/Touch-Panel-Button-Switch-AL-001/dp/B00GL6B4GG/ref=sr_1_3?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1421468320&sr=1-3&keywords=aeon+button) There is an Aeon Key Fob as well, but it doesn’t seem to be very durable or stylish: What else is available? Then if you have any questions about any of those devices, you can come back here and ask them so you can get individualized responses. 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![JDRoberts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/jdroberts/32/56577_2.png) [@JDRoberts](https://community.smartthings.com/u/JDRoberts)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2017, 2:51pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-discreet-switch/82669/20 "2017-03-26T14:51:34Z")
As far as the .Fibaro button, it’s pretty big ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/original/3X/2/e/2e84b2e8f273cfb2a6e52cdf749d8190015a9962.JPG) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/original/3X/4/c/4c747741f00c63e7e6cd7a8ffa1598b390c6a769.JPG) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/original/3X/3/1/31bb722cd8cba1e28c29b4bd2fc5268da37870c6.JPG) 1.81" by 1.34" Also be aware that a number of people have reported problems with it flaking out from time to time, meaning it may not be as reliable as you want for a light switch. The buttons FAQ has a link to the discussion thread for it. [Next page](https://community.smartthings.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-discreet-switch/82669.md?page=2)