# Advice on using 2 hubs **URL:** \ **Category:** Devices & Integrations\ **Created:** [January 19, 2016, 1:57pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/advice-on-using-2-hubs/36361 "2016-01-19T13:57:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![paulhants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@paulhants](https://community.smartthings.com/u/paulhants)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 1:57pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/advice-on-using-2-hubs/36361/1 "2016-01-19T13:57:45Z")
Hi all I am looking for a bit of advice. I use ST at home and have it all set up fine, but I want to also set up a hub at my holiday home. I am after a bit of advice on this please. - Can you have 2 hubs registered to one email address? - Can both be controlled without logging in and out of my account on my iphone? - Can 1 presence fob we registered to both hubs or will I need 2 fobs per person? Any other advice you may have for doing this would be welcomed. Thanks for your help ---
**Author:** ![cdikland](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/cdikland/32/105520_2.png) [@cdikland](https://community.smartthings.com/u/cdikland)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 6:16pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/advice-on-using-2-hubs/36361/2 "2016-01-19T18:16:52Z")
> [@paulhants](#): > > Can you have 2 hubs registered to one email address? > Can both be controlled without logging in and out of my account on my iphone? > Can 1 presence fob we registered to both hubs or will I need 2 fobs per person? 1. No problem 2. No Problem. You will have to change the Location though via the mobile app. (i.e. :/My Locations/Select the Hub to Control) 3. Not sure ---
**Author:** ![JDRoberts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/jdroberts/32/56577_2.png) [@JDRoberts](https://community.smartthings.com/u/JDRoberts)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/advice-on-using-2-hubs/36361/3 "2016-01-19T18:22:26Z")
> [@paulhants](#): > > - Can 1 presence fob we registered to both hubs or will I need 2 fobs per person? > > Any other advice you may have for doing this would be welcomed. > > Thanks for your help A Zigbee or Z wave device, including the fob, can only be paired to one controller. So you would need two fobs, one for each hub. _I originally believed you could have a phonebased presence indicator work with both hubs, but @joshua_lyon corrected my error in his post below, so I have edited this post to remove that reference._ ---
**Author:** ![joshua\_lyon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/joshua_lyon/32/12655_2.png) [@joshua\_lyon](https://community.smartthings.com/u/joshua_lyon)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/advice-on-using-2-hubs/36361/4 "2016-01-19T18:59:27Z")
> [@JDRoberts](#): > > If instead you use a phonebased presence indicator, including a service like life360 or IFTTT, then I believe you could have the same one work with both hubs. Unfortunately, any third party service that integrates with SmartThings will be limited to interacting with a single location based on the current state of the OAuth implementation without some clunky workarounds. A third-party software company _can_ perform multiple authorizations to the SmartThings platform, but they would have to manage all of the logic and taxonomy within their application. I don’t know of any apps that make calls to _multiple_ SmartApp instances from a _single_ third-party app instance. > [Help with multiple locations](https://community.smartthings.com/t/help-with-multiple-locations/35735/) ---
**Author:** ![scottalex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@scottalex](https://community.smartthings.com/u/scottalex)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/advice-on-using-2-hubs/36361/5 "2016-01-19T19:30:35Z")
I believe SmartThings native phoned based presence is supposed to work with multiple locations(hubs). However I never really got phone based presence to work with either so I can’t say that for sure. For presence we have been able to work around the issues Josh described with Life360. So Life360 knows when I’m at property A or property B. Life360 is directly connected with SmartThings property A. So I can have presence events triggered from that integration. Life360 is also directly connected to IFTTT which is solely connected to property B. So I can have presence events triggered from that integration. As to the OP question, I’ll just say when I decide to move to Hub v2. I will probably create it as a new SmartThings Account and go with a 1 location/account setup. I feel like this will give me the most flexibility, and I don’t see SmartThings prioritizing 3rd party multi location support any time in the near future. I plan on using the google ability to treat [name@gmail.com](mailto:name@gmail.com) and [n.a.m.e@gmail.com](mailto:n.a.m.e@gmail.com) the same in order to create distinct accounts using the “same email”, and to use Account Sharing to allow control without logging in/out. ---
**Author:** ![joshua\_lyon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/smartthings/user_avatar/community.smartthings.com/joshua_lyon/32/12655_2.png) [@joshua\_lyon](https://community.smartthings.com/u/joshua_lyon)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 10:54pm UTC](https://community.smartthings.com/t/advice-on-using-2-hubs/36361/6 "2016-01-19T22:54:04Z")
> [@scottalex](#): > > I plan on using the google ability to treat [name@gmail.com](mailto:name@gmail.com) and [n.a.m.e@gmail.com](mailto:n.a.m.e@gmail.com) the same in order to create distinct accounts using the “same email”, and to use Account Sharing to allow control without logging in/out. Similar concept, but I use the Gmail ninja trick that `name@gmail.com` and `name+topic@gmail.com` map to the same email, but can be used for creating multiple accounts. This lets me more easily setup spare accounts for development and testing.